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no hot water - gas heater AND leaking water shut off valve

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no hot water - gas heater AND leaking water shut off valve

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I notice at 5 pm yesterday of the long weekend - instead of hot , lukewarm water
A GSW gas water heater with power vent - purchased from Lowe's was installed Oct 2015.
The red light at bottom of tank was flashing 3 times - 3 second pause - indicating - pressure switch fail open
Unplug electric to reset . The water heater will go through cycle to start up . Stay on for 3 minutes and shut off.
Again Flashing 3 times - 3 sec pause.
The is no condensation on the hose or the switch.
Vacuumed anyway.
Sucking and blowing on the switch opening - there is clicking . Therefore switch is opening and closing ....

model G650S40NPVES2
serial # 1535A028647

Description WTR HTR 50USG PV NG LOWE'S

Pressure Switch

NS213060 Ceveland Controls


Called and emailed techsupport@gsw-wh.com
Lotta calls this morning
Noble plumbing is back ordered for the switch at all stores and won't sell to me anyway ( I'm a consumer , not licensed plumber)


Went to shut off hot water out tap . Leaks in all positions currently . Emco - blue plastic handle. Appears to be a one piece unit. Have no idea how to remove valve stem.
Turned off cold water IN to the heater - opened a downstairs hot water tap - No more dripping water currentlyYour text to link here....

Suggestions ? TIA
David M - in Brampton
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TomLafinsky wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 3:12 pm
For the valve you need to use a wrench or plier (wrench preferable) and unscrew where you see an octognal shape below blue handle.

EDIT: If you have the space, do what I did and install a second electric water tank. So if one thank fails you don't give a damn. You can take your time to have the tank that failed repaired and you always have hot water. Each hot/cold lines on both tanks have a valve allowing you to easily switch from one tank to the other. I know this won't help you now but it might help in making your life more pleasant in the future.
What about 2 furnaces?
2 AC units? 2 microwaves? 2 stoves?
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engineered wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 3:25 pm
What about 2 furnaces?
2 AC units? 2 microwaves? 2 stoves?
I bought a second house in case something in my first house breaks. The ultimate redundancy. Face With Tears Of Joy
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David MacF wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 2:56 pm

Vacuumed anyway.
Sucking and blowing on the switch opening - there is clicking . Therefore switch is opening and closing ....

model G650S40NPVES2
serial # 1535A028647

Description WTR HTR 50USG PV NG LOWE'S

Pressure Switch

NS213060 Ceveland Controls

..
Blow out the lines connected to the switch (i.e away from the switch

https://www.amresupply.com/part/UNIVERS ... URE_SWITCH
https://www.amresupply.com/part/12744567

Will one of these work ?
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MrFrugal1 wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 3:42 pm
I bought a second house in case something in my first house breaks. The ultimate redundancy. Face With Tears Of Joy
I also got another house in another country in case someone nukes this one.
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David MacF wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 2:56 pm
I notice at 5 pm yesterday of the long weekend - instead of hot , lukewarm water
A GSW gas water heater with power vent - purchased from Lowe's was installed Oct 2015.
The red light at bottom of tank was flashing 3 times - 3 second pause - indicating - pressure switch fail open
Unplug electric to reset . The water heater will go through cycle to start up . Stay on for 3 minutes and shut off.
Again Flashing 3 times - 3 sec pause.
The pressure switch is a safety device to ensure that your vent pipe is free from obstruction. While they do fail, it is much more likely your vent is blocked or restricted in someway. You might want to check it first.
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pootza wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 5:44 pm
I also got another house in another country in case someone nukes this one.
I've invested in the Chinese moon landing, and am planning to build a house there. Can't be too careful with global warming and whatnot.
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TomLafinsky wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 6:50 pm
You idiot!!! The moon is too close, not safe. Go to Mars my boy, there you'll be happy :)
I had one of those one way tickets to Mars ... but then they went bankrupt.
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TomLafinsky wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 6:53 pm
Was it in first class or economy?
We all had our own pods.
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Some success today. Got the shutoff tap apart. A struggle. Jigiloo, hair dryer, crescent wrench, small pipe pliers. Not reverse threaded. Was Chipped on the cup that holds washer. Replacing
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Similar. The one I need has only one air line and 2 electric contact posts.
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TomLafinsky wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 3:45 pm
I thought everyone did that!!! But I'm too lazy to drive to my second house, so...
Do I dare ask about the 2nd wife incase the 1st wife ....
I'd rather be outdoors camping, kayaking, and mountain biking ...
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David MacF wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 7:45 pm
Similar. The one I need has only one air line and 2 electric contact posts.
Do you have a multimeter ? Check the switch contacts. Do they actually work when you blow into the switch

Also, the other poster said to check the pipe isn't blocked outside by ice/ snow
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l69norm wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 9:36 pm
Also, the other poster said to check the pipe isn't blocked outside by ice/ snow
Yes, have seen this issue numerous times this winter, and in a few cases resulted in the WH or furnace shutting down ...
I'd rather be outdoors camping, kayaking, and mountain biking ...
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David MacF wrote:
Feb 16th, 2019 7:45 pm
Similar. The one I need has only one air line and 2 electric contact posts.
Both of those will work, but they are useless since I doubt you have the tools to set up the pressures

Try tapping the switch with a screw driver with light-med force with power off.
Then turn power On, turn dial all the way up, then all the way down and back to hot. Reset power again if he doesn’t do anything different after few mins.
Code is not indicating block vent, just stuck contact in switch. and you shouldn’t be blowing at all. Could blow the diaphragm.
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