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No more locked phones!

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Error on My Bell:
Error RS05

The IMEI number provided was found but the device cannot be unlocked as your account has not yet been active for 90 days. Please resubmit your request after 90 days.
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titaniumtux wrote:
Dec 3rd, 2017 11:08 pm
This makes sense, and is sadly a YMMV. If the carrier sees that the device user is not linked to the Corp account in any way, they might empathize.

The fact that Corp iPhones are also sold on Kijiji is a sign that it's not a good idea to buy phones off Kijiji, especially iPhones (Androids are often cheaper and much cheaper to unlock).
Yeah my confidence with buying phones off someone from Kijiji wasn't that great but the options on the BST section on RFD were limited, and the ones available weren't enticing. I know people have been screwed with buying phones off of Kijiji but I did everything I can to prevent this from happening to me. The person who I bought it from was legitimate and very accommodating. They provided me their name, the receipt (which had their name and contact information), and their personal number.

When I got home after the sale I googled the person's name (lol like a skeptical creeper) and I found their LinkedIn account and all of my doubt was erased away. The person's LinkedIn account had their picture and some bits of information that checked out.

There are good, honest, and genuine people who use Kijiji for selling their phones, you just gotta be smart and diligent and know what to look out for.
WorldIRC wrote:
Dec 3rd, 2017 11:09 pm
Corporate Account paid by the company or paid by the individual?
I have the receipt right in front of me and from what I see, it looks like the iPhone was paid for by the company. There are details on the receipt like client number, invoice number, the company that the person works for, date of sale, sales rep, and $0 for the cost of the phone.

The $0 subtotal on the receipt is probably a definite giveaway that the phone was paid for by the company.
Devhux wrote:
Dec 3rd, 2017 11:25 pm
That's how all iPhones are unlocked - there is no code.
Cool, that's good to know!
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Called Rogers Small Business technical support and got FIVE iPhones unlocked in one session . 2 phones were active EPP lines and 3 of the phones were from an old personal account that is no longer active. surprisingly painless experience ..
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Called Bell and they mentioned I still need to pay 50$ for unlock. When I asked about CRTC code, the agent mentioned it's free for only new activation. Is this information correct guys?
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kgvaughan wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 11:35 am
Called Bell and they mentioned I still need to pay 50$ for unlock. When I asked about CRTC code, the agent mentioned it's free for only new activation. Is this information correct guys?
No. Call again for another rep. The only case where they are allowed to charge or refuse to unlock is if you're not their customer.
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WH0WHAT wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 9:41 am
Yeah my confidence with buying phones off someone from Kijiji wasn't that great but the options on the BST section on RFD were limited, and the ones available weren't enticing. I know people have been screwed with buying phones off of Kijiji but I did everything I can to prevent this from happening to me. The person who I bought it from was legitimate and very accommodating. They provided me their name, the receipt (which had their name and contact information), and their personal number.

When I got home after the sale I googled the person's name (lol like a skeptical creeper) and I found their LinkedIn account and all of my doubt was erased away. The person's LinkedIn account had their picture and some bits of information that checked out.

There are good, honest, and genuine people who use Kijiji for selling their phones, you just gotta be smart and diligent and know what to look out for.
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I agree, as I sell phones on Kijiji and it's working for me. I even have repeat buyers because it's not always easy to find a good phone seller on Kijiji.

I'd sell on RFD BST but for now there's no region break-down, and most users there are in GTA (and I'm in Ottawa/Gatineau region), so until RFD has BST categorized by city, it's not too useful for those outside of the GTA...
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ToniCipriani wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 11:38 am
No. Call again for another rep. The only case where they are allowed to charge or refuse to unlock is if you're not their customer.
Or if you are trying to unlock a device purchased against a true CORP account which is not bound by WCOC rules.
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So obviously Samsung can be unlocked through Live Chat with Samsung. Has anyone tried unlocking an iPhone through Apple Store or on the phone with Apple?
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ToniCipriani wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 11:38 am
No. Call again for another rep. The only case where they are allowed to charge or refuse to unlock is if you're not their customer.
Thanks for the reply.

After posting this, I went and looked thru initial pages of this thread and I think another condition applies to me.

I'm part of a corporate account. :-/
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kgvaughan wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 12:05 pm
Thanks for the reply.

After posting this, I went and looked thru initial pages of this thread and I think another condition applies to me.

I'm part of a corporate account. :-/
If it's paid by you out of pocket, then it should apply as well.
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ToniCipriani wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 12:08 pm
If it's paid by you out of pocket, then it should apply as well.
It's more about the "liability" rather than "who is paying".
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ToniCipriani wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 12:08 pm
If it's paid by you out of pocket, then it should apply as well.
I'm sorry. But does this statement mean, if my company is not paying and I am paying, it should be free?
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kgvaughan wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 12:24 pm
I'm sorry. But does this statement mean, if my company is not paying and I am paying, it should be free?
Like @WorldIRC said, it depends on the contract type. "Business" could still mean small business not corporate, in which the unlock is free.

If you are still a corporate/enterprise contract that still allowed 3-years, then no, the unlock is not free.

Number 50 is the actual text of the definition: https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2017/2017-200.htm
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ToniCipriani wrote:
Dec 4th, 2017 12:27 pm
Like @WorldIRC said, it depends on the contract type. "Business" could still mean small business not corporate, in which the unlock is free.

If you are still a corporate/enterprise contract that still allowed 3-years, then no, the unlock is not free.

Number 50 is the actual text of the definition: https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2017/2017-200.htm
Great link. And yes, it is all about who the legal contract is between. The individual paying, alone, is not enough to determine if WCOC applies or not, but rather, who the actual contract is between.
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jackrabbit000 wrote:
Dec 2nd, 2017 7:10 pm
It was from Rogers and found the info kind of odd. Last update on the page was Nov. 26, 2017

https://www.rogers.com/customer/support ... -010117145
If you do not have a different carrier SIM card then the link from the Apple site
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201328 says

If you don't have another SIM card to use
Use these steps to finish unlocking your iPhone:
Back up your iPhone.
After you make a backup, erase your iPhone.
Restore your iPhone from the backup you just made.

So you will have to erase your phone as one of the steps. Did this yesterday for a Fido iphone. From the initial backup to completion
via itunes took about 1 hour.

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