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Nokia Lumia 1020 32GB -41 MP Camera - Refur $259 - US

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Anyone here about Nokia releasing a new successor to the 1020 in the holiday season? Could explain why Telus nor Rogers carry this phone anymore...
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shingor6 wrote: I bet the image quality is not very good, 41mp is way too much for that lens.
AFAIK it's still the best camera phone out there. The bump looks like it would take some getting used to. They have a new one that is 20mp.
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FrostyWinnipeg wrote: AFAIK it's still the best camera phone out there. The bump looks like it would take some getting used to. They have a new one that is 20mp.
It's the best in theory. You can get some spectacular shots. But overall, the iPhone 6 is probably better for everyday use because the quality is still great, but it's way faster, and has much better automatic results. Still, the 1020 in the right hands is capable of producing better results. You just have to wait for them :)
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camber wrote: Hmmm.... Here has supported traffic for at least over a year. I've been using Nokia maps/Here since the Symbian days and I find it way more accurate and reliable than Google maps. Plus, you don't have to look that hard to find that many people have the same issues with waze and google maps that you experienced with here.

https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=76790
Traffic was on Symbian too (more than four years ago). Those experiencing problems may have configured incorrectly -i.e. reroute due to traffic automatic instead of always ask, or wrong route selection from faster/optimized/shorter.
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tjindersingh wrote: It's the best in theory. You can get some spectacular shots. But overall, the iPhone 6 is probably better for everyday use because the quality is still great, but it's way faster, and has much better automatic results. Still, the 1020 in the right hands is capable of producing better results. You just have to wait for them :)
Does iPhone have software features comparable to the new Lumia Camera (i.e. option to blend multiple exposures and so on?).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAel8z6nV0A
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tubs wrote: a bit of warning....unlocking a lumia 1020 is a b!tch....mine is locked to Rogers and none of the 3rd party unlocking sites could unlock it
15$ on EBay for a Nokia Lumia 1020 unlock code. I did it for a locked Telus 1020 with no problems.
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shpinktaar wrote: I was using HERE maps from Toronto to London, and it took me through back roads, side streets... just an absolutely crazy route. Turned a 2 hour drive into 3.5. It wasn't an isolated incident either. I was using it in areas that I was quite familiar with just to see what routes it came up with, and it always doubled my travel time. Checked to make sure all the settings were right - thought maybe some weird option like no highways or whatever was turned on, but nope... just awful directions. Maybe HERE has improved since I was using it over a year ago, but when I was using it it was a serious pile (and I read MANY complaints stating the exact same thing I did... which is how I came to use Waze in the first place).

EDIT - And it always got the time estimates wrong. I found anything Google/Waze was quite good about estimates, but not HERE. Oh, and POIs were awful cuz they all had to be added when the software first came out.

http://forums.wpcentral.com/windows-pho ... -maps.html
http://primeplaces.here.com/

Also pretty sure when it was released it didn't use realtime traffic data, but it seems to now. I haven't used it in a year, but when I did use it - it was absolutely terrible.
As long as your settings are right it is the best out there. Don't forget, it uses Navteq mapping..ie Garmin.

I've never had problems with my 920, only once when I forgot to enable an avoidance I set on a previous trip.

Another thing, it works completely offline, that alone is a huge advantage.
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I am really curious to hey a windows phone, but I'm not sure about the os.

The camera and price is a huge selling fair for me right now.

My silly HTC M7 pictures suck. The 4mp camera is brutal if you want to export them.
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+1, Here Drive+ works well in Minneapolis without data.
ahhell wrote: Totally agree. We used my Lumia all over Montana when we went on a trip. HERE was amazing. That guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about.
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tjindersingh wrote: It's the best in theory. You can get some spectacular shots. But overall, the iPhone 6 is probably better for everyday use because the quality is still great, but it's way faster, and has much better automatic results. Still, the 1020 in the right hands is capable of producing better results. You just have to wait for them :)
The iphone does not even come close to the Lumia 1020 camera quality. The 1020 is in a different league. Here are two sample photos I took a couple weeks ago on my hike.

http://i.imgur.com/bvPCg6y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zaXNT2N.jpg

Just absolutely amazed at the camera quality.
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shingor6 wrote: I bet the image quality is not very good, 41mp is way too much for that lens.
Wtf do mega pixels have to do with lens size? Did you mean to say sensor size? The size of the sensor is probably the most important factor in image quality. In the 1020's case it has a 2/3" sensor which is bigger than most point and shoot cameras. The iPhone has a tiny 1/3" sensor . Also the 1020 has optical image stabilization and a real xenon flash
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Super tempted to get one of these for travelling.
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Feb 2, 2014
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Cypherus21 wrote: The iphone does not even come close to the Lumia 1020 camera quality. The 1020 is in a different league. Here are two sample photos I took a couple weeks ago on my hike.

http://i.imgur.com/bvPCg6y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zaXNT2N.jpg

Just absolutely amazed at the camera quality.
I never said that the iPhone was as good as the 1020. I said that it's a better camera for most people because it performs so much better and still yields excellent results. If you want the absolute best image quality on a smartphone, you get the 1020.
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Jamaalism wrote: HERE maps is weird. I too have used it since the Symbian days and can recall two notable incidents:

1. When using directions from the airport in Buffalo to the US/Canada border (can't remember which one exactly), it took me through side neighbourhood streets instead of a very obvious highway route. That was over 5 years ago on Symbian.

2. More recently, as in this Sept 2014, I wanted directions from John and Leslie in Thornhill to Lionel Farms in Stouffville. Instead of routing me up the 404, it had me take a bunch of city roads like Warden - this route was also a few minutes longer. I ended up using WAZE for a better route.

Meh.. I use both waze and Here and my car navigation. I like Waze because when their traffic stoppages you get updates from other users but I personally get way crazier directions from Waze. I was in Downtown toronto financial district and had to get to scarborough (sheppard/midland). Waze gave me a bunch of weird back roads instead of the obvious DVP, 401 collector etc combo...

Point is that all these mapping solutions are prone to give you weird issues from time to time.
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goozy1 wrote: Wtf do mega pixels have to do with lens size? Did you mean to say sensor size? The size of the sensor is probably the most important factor in image quality. In the 1020's case it has a 2/3" sensor which is bigger than most point and shoot cameras. The iPhone has a tiny 1/3" sensor . Also the 1020 has optical image stabilization and a real xenon flash
he has a point. The more megapixels you have, the better the lens you need. You may want to read this: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutor ... tion.shtml before you "wtf" someone else post about this subject.
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Lobster2 wrote: he has a point. The more megapixels you have, the better the lens you need. You may want to read this: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutor ... tion.shtml before you "wtf" someone else post about this subject.
I stand by my statement. Lens size affects things like depth of field, focal length and speed of lens. The quality of the lens does matter as well as the aperture construction. The Lumia 1020 doesn't even use the full 41MP for the final image but rather for lossless digital zoom and oversampling (the final image resolution is 5MP). I suggest you read through the Lumia 1020 whitepaper for more information:

http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/2723846/ ... epaper.pdf
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While I don't agree about "wtf" comment. Both actually have a point. The 1020 is a unusual beast because it utilizes "pixel binning" and "crop zoom". So many users actually use it as a 5Mp camera to save on file size and reduce noise. While at outdoor, you can take advantage of the full 41Mp. The lens may not take full advantage of 41Mp but put it the other way -- you are taking full advantage of the lens. The reality is one component will always outperform the other, either the lens or sensor. Under bright outdoor environment, you still gain on MTF, resolution compare to typical 8Mp smartphones and this is what Nokia wants to achieve. A design that works very well with Pureview 808 but not as good on the 1020 imo. The high pixel count is mainly for pixel pinning. Is it a hype, hard to say but Lumia 1020 is as good or better than most serious P&S with 1/1/7" sensor.
Lobster2 wrote: he has a point. The more megapixels you have, the better the lens you need. You may want to read this: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutor ... tion.shtml before you "wtf" someone else post about this subject.
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I think you need to read more about the 1020 too, what you said applies to any camera. Nokia does use the full 41Mp on the sensor unless you use digital zoom. This is same for any camera that operates in crop-zoom mode which has significant advantage in movie mode.
goozy1 wrote: I stand by my statement. Lens size affects things like depth of field, focal length and speed of lens. The quality of the lens does matter as well as the aperture construction. The Lumia 1020 doesn't even use the full 41MP for the final image but rather for lossless digital zoom and oversampling (the final image resolution is 5MP). I suggest you read through the Lumia 1020 whitepaper for more information:

http://i.nokia.com/blob/view/-/2723846/ ... epaper.pdf
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82 wrote: I think you need to read more about the 1020 too, what you said applies to any camera. Nokia does use the full 41Mp on the sensor unless you use digital zoom. This is same for any camera that operates in crop-zoom mode which has significant advantage in movie mode.
Again. The 41MP image cannot be saved and is only kept on the device for lossless zoom and oversampling.

http://www.nokia.com/us-en/support/faq/ ... c=FA141773
The 41MP sensor of Nokia Camera enables you to take sharp photos. When you take a photo, the camera saves 2 versions of it: a full-resolution photo (34MP), and a high-resolution photo (5MP). The full-resolution photo can only be viewed in Nokia Camera, where you can also zoom and reframe this detailed photo. Elsewhere, for example in Photos hub, a very clear 5MP version of the photo is used. This 5MP version of the photo is easy to share, for example, in social media.

Why 5MP?
5MP is the sweet spot for image quality that is easy to share and printable up to A3 size. And because our 5MP
images condense the information from the 41MP sensor, they have amazingly high image quality. The 5MP images get the full benefit of the oversampling
technology and their quality is way above that produced by any traditional imaging device. In addition to over sampling, the 41MP sensor can also be used for lossless
or high resolution zooming.
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why do you want to save the 41Mp, processing it in photoshop ? It is indeed intended to be used only in-camera and I would say an excercise that they seem to have abandoned withness the 930 due to the problem of speed etc.

For those that really care about image quality, get a P&S which is cheaper and take way better pictures due to other factors, not just MP. 930 is a 'reasonable' compromise and I prefer that over the 1020.

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