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[westernartic]

Why didn't you call the police? These "security guards" cannot arrest nor unreasonably detain your kid. Carrying a kid across a store seems a little unreasonable to me, after all its impossible for him to flee. Once the cops arrive little can be done in the way of criminal charges, it appears to all bean accident. It is my belief that the hour long talk, and yelling was only used as a scare tactic. Since they likely knew little could be done, they resorted to such. I would have just asked for the citation in regards to the ban, and walked out; unless they wanted to charge you.

Moreover, the 'little one' may have leaned something from the talk, I'm sure he won't "steal" again. Perhaps it was a lesson-well-learned.

There is a good deal of criminal charges that can be laid.I really don't know if this was all a accident at all.As for charges both the boy and op could have been charged and face life time bans from the walmart chain.Theft under $500 i think its 30 days in jail or a $5000 fine.

OP
I am starting to think you don't like our laws here.

1)Get used to them and adjust.
or
2)Go back to your home country.

[RLP06]

I think a lot of kids run rampant these days, and its due to the parenting. I see a lot of things these days that I would have not dared to do when I was younger

[Cam_86]

... Wow...

Not to mean or anything, but the OP really has some flawed perception of reality... Its pretty damn simple:
1.Dont open sealed stuff
2.If you find a unsealed item and want to look at it, DONT take it away from its packaging.
3.NEVER leave the store with unpaid merchandise(honestly cant believe someone would need to tell a 12 year old that let alone a grown, albeit disabled, adult.)

Its amazing how this mother expects to give her children the benefit of the doubt, and yet cant seem to empathize with others who have to clean up after her. I mean we get this long winded post about how her and her children have been victimized, including hear-say from her child(who, she admits, is a thief) which just reaks of BS... yet no mention of the the people who need to follow her kids, not only making sure they dont rip the place off, but also re-assemble the stuff they have opened up and spread across the store(which is not a stores policy. Having worked at zellers, i can tell you first hand its people like you who i dread to see enter the store. The kids might be a pain, but the people who enabled them, and as this entire topic shows, scream bloody murder when others step in to add any semblance of parenting to their lives) and clean up any mess they leave behind.

Sorry, but your lack of parenting skills do not allow you to play the 'pity me, bit business is evil' card. And thats coming from someone who is by no means a fan of those kind of department stores to begin with(again.. i worked though. Its just as miserable to work there as it is to shop there.)

[cmag]

...

12 years old is not "A little one" at 12 years old, I was stacking hay (some days 1200 bails a day) in my moms farm because my father passed away and it needed to be done and i needed to be resposible to help my mother.

...

Clark Kent! Is that you! Remember me? We went to Smallville Senior Public School together. (Sorry man, couldn't resist the hay bails - I would have added "in a blizzard, without a coat or gloves, with only a toque to keep me warm." )


Angeltouch, as far as this issue is concerned, I will not add to the chorus, but offer the following to you for the sake of your children's future success, happiness, and wellbeing:

Yes, kids can be difficult and hard to raise at times, and one hopes that everyone who encounters them, whether they are at their best or their worst, would show maturity, strength of character, wisdom, and compassion when dealing with them. However, in the real world today, kids and adults alike will be lucky to encounter that sort person in situations where there behaviour, character, or intent is called into question.

Be thankful for this experience and use it to guide your children to display maturity, respect for themselves, others, and other's property. I am sure you have seen in the news, the tragic and unwelcome outcomes of individuals having encounters with law enforcement that should have been handled in completely different ways.

Your children will now, and in the future, like the rest of us, be judged by our conduct, demeanour, and the character traits we display when we go into the world and interact with others - and unfortunately, sometimes those "others" are stupid, disrespectful, unprofessional, and once in a while, evil. And, whether right or wrong, being different - background, colour, language, accent, style of dress, or being differently-abled - adds an extra hurdle that still must be leapt over, even in the greatest country, Canada.

You love your children, and were hurt by the events you all experienced that day. Ensure that they will not have to face any further questions about their character, behaviour, or intents, by instilling in them the self-discipline they need to succeed in life. Good parents discipline their children not because they hate them, but because they love them enough to put them on the right track.

This country, despite its flaws, offers all children the ability and opportunity (not always equal or fair - but it tries - and that's also a part of life), to pursue their highest potentials and live a beautiful life that is so rare in the rest of the world. Guide and push them to take the best advantage of the educational system, libraries, community facilities, and all the myriad of resources and assistance offered here. The cost for all this? A strong work ethic and not much more than a healthy respect for yourself, others, and the laws of this land - and half of your earnings in taxes, but I digress

I'm sure that the lack of understanding you may have thought other posters were showing towards your situation, is really a misunderstanding. Language may often get in the way but to my reading, most of the other posters, like myself, genuinely offered you some guidance, that no matter how it was expressed, is for the honest benefit of your children. I hope you took this in the spirit that this was meant, and that this experience will propel you and your children to move in a direction that will allow you to achieve your Canadian dream.

Welcome to Canada - give it your best and you'll never look back!

PS - Angeltouch, although you removed your post while I was replying, I hope you stick around RFD, as you'll learn enough useful things in the forums to personally benefit from. Good luck.

[joeyjoejoe]

Wow! I'd expect that type of behavior from a 4 year old... not 12.

[TechRock]

lol you guys scare her off rfd

[RLP06]

lol you guys scare her off rfd

I think you, Jack Bauer, scared her off with your manliness

[ab20]

none?
nothing to rant about..... ?

[Cam_86]

none?
nothing to rant about..... ?

I think most people here gave her a taste of reality, and she realized just how much at fault she and her kids were...

Or maybe she expected everyone to comfort her, and thought it would be better to take it down before even more people take her for a fool...

I'm hoping for the former, but i'm guessing its really the latter.

[Jin-n-Juice]

Can anyone summarized what happened? I'm just curious.

[TechRock]

Can anyone summarized what happened? I'm just curious.

Summary from what i remember:

-OP & her 2 kids went to walmart
-OP did her own shopping while her kids play around the toy section
-one of the kid open up a package and took out a tennis ball to play
-when they were leaving, the kid forgot to put back the ball and took the ball outside with him
-security caught OP's kid
- security treated the kid and OP badly
- make fun of her when she wasnt there
- police came
- no charges
- OP felt that her kid's innocent had been taken away from him

and i think thats all..

[RLP06]

Summary from what i remember:

-OP & her 2 kids went to walmart
-OP did her own shopping while her kids play around the toy section
-one of the kid open up a package and took out a tennis ball to play
-when they were leaving, the kid forgot to put back the ball and took the ball outside with him
-security caught OP's kid
- security treated the kid and OP badly
- make fun of her when she wasnt there
- police came
- no charges
- OP felt that her kid's innocent had been taken away from him

and i think thats all..

- OP's kid was 12, not very young kid

[Jin-n-Juice]

- OP's kid was 12, not very young kid

+1
And I wouldn't let my kids run off on their own... I'd be scared they'd get kidnapped or wandered off out of the store or something......