Noni juice

[mannyb]

I tried Noni for a while. Did nothing for me & it taste like crap. I'm more of a believer in modern medicine, excercise, and diet instead of taking this quack doctor remedy crap. If it's a cure all as many claim, why don't I see Onconlogists recommending it to their cancer patients?

[poedua]

I'm sure this stuff that really is just juice does help make people feel better when they're feeling a little under the weather due to the natural vitamins and such in it but I don't believe that it's all that people say it is. I had a friend who was convinced by a Noni Juice seller that this stuff would make his cancer go away or at least control it enough so that the chemo and radiation therapy could do the rest. He spent a fortune on the stuff, followed the instructions to a T and still died a horrible and painful death.

I talk to people who endorse this product and ask them what proof or study exists that shows that this juice works. I try to keep an open mind because I know that not every treatment works for every person. But really the only answers I get are "Well, it's by word of mouth." and "Just stories I hear from people who drink it." I have to admit that this isn't very compelling evidence as breakthroughs are usually heavily supported in the medical society with years and years of study and research. Remember the craze over Barley Green about 10 years ago? Same fad that came and went.

If this stuff actually works, don't you think the Cancer Society, the Heart and Stroke Foundation, etc. would come out and encourage people to use it? What better way to spread the word than to have a respected foundation endorse it? It seems that all the current support from the doctors are all backed by the Noni Juice company. All these testimonials and surveys are from their own people and therefore skewed. Aren't there any independent studies that are non-biased that would be more trustworthy? Just my 2 cents.

You're bang on..this Noni juice is a scam IMO..I know of no studies in reptuable journals that have purported to scientifically prove it's medicinal benefits.

It's all anecdotal evidence ....." snake oil " IMO.

[mannyb]

Yes it's anecdotal evidence at best. When you ask someone who promotes this crap to produce irrefutable scientific evidence/studies, they can't. Show me studies done by a reputable medical school which says Noni works. And don't show me evidence by some doctor who got their degree from a box of Kelloggs cereal. It's always some study done by a doctor in some third world country who paid USD $50 to get some medical diploma from the University of Diplomas are Cheap. Show me where the Harvard School of Medicine or John Hopkins Medical School says this stuff works on their patients. Show me!!

[gordholio]

How long has noni juice been available in North America?
Not many years I would suppose.
When something is new, some marketers try to make it appear like it's better than other juices - orange, apple, etc.
Why is it so expensive compared to other fruit juices?

[gordholio]

that's great...may I ask why you are repeatedly posting in this thread to tell us the same thing again and again?

Because other people are repeatedly saying the same hype.

[Geese_Howard]

bump for punani juice!

[mannyb]

bump for punani juice!

Now that's real juice!!

[ronin893]

And don't show me evidence by some doctor who got their degree from a box of Kelloggs cereal.

I take it that you're not a believer on Dr. John Kellogg's theories? Not sure of you intended it or not, but I find it hilarious that you alluded to a personality who was associated with one of the more famous health fads of the 19th century.

Anyone not familiar with Dr. Kellogg should read this.
http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/ma...gs-cornflakes/

[mannyb]

Mmmmmm....Cornflakes & Noni juice. Breakfast of Champions!

[poedua]

Yes it's anecdotal evidence at best. When you ask someone who promotes this crap to produce irrefutable scientific evidence/studies, they can't. Show me studies done by a reputable medical school which says Noni works. And don't show me evidence by some doctor who got their degree from a box of Kelloggs cereal. It's always some study done by a doctor in some third world country who paid USD $50 to get some medical diploma from the University of Diplomas are Cheap. Show me where the Harvard School of Medicine or John Hopkins Medical School says this stuff works on their patients. Show me!!

Great post.

Couldn't agree more.

NONI - No One Needs It

[poedua]

The Tropical Fruit with 101 Medicinal Uses


Conditions Helped by People Who Drank TAHITIAN NONI® Juice

by Dr. Neil Solomon, M.D., PhD

“This list contains the statistical analysis of the data, including both primary and secondary applications, that I obtained from surveying over 1,227 health care professionals representing over 25,314 TAHITIAN NONI® Juice drinkers from over 80 countries.”



Conditions
# who took TNJ
for that condition
% Helped **



Allergies
3,198
86%

Arthritis
1,675
78%

Asthma
8,077
71%

Cancer
2,188
69%

CEFIDS, Fibromyalgia
3,524
77%

Depression
1,512
80%

Diabetes, Types 1 & 2
5,575
82%

Digestion
3,171
90%

Energy
16,056
90%

Heart Disease
2,158
76%

High Blood Pressure, decreased
1,869
84%

HIV
150
55%

Immune System
3,707
77%

Kidney Disease
3,764
67%

Menstruation
3,798
79%

Mental Acuity, Inc. Alertness
5,543
73%

Multiple Sclerosis
25
52%

Muscle Increase, Body Building
1,216
70%

Obesity, lost some excess weight
5,526
72%

Pain, including headaches
6,828
86%

Parkinson's Disease
25
52%

Respiratory Problems
3,857
72%

Sexual Enhancement Increased
2,984
84%

Skin and Hair Problems
877
78%

Sleep, improved
2,025
75%

Smoking, stopped
876
56%

Stress, coped better
6,743
74%

Stroke
1,806
53%

Well-being, felt better
7,879
80%





** Pooled percentage of people who experienced objective and/or subjective improvement of their symptoms after taking TNJ.

The majority of drinkers who did not get optimal results failed to do so because they either drank a lesser amount and/or drank it for a lesser amount of time than recommended.



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It could help you…It can’t hurt you…and it might change your life!

I'll pick out one of those real easy claims above - energy.

You get energy for your muscles from carbs. Call me a skeptic, but when it comes to juice, carbs are carbs IMO...and when it comes to carbs, juice is juice....Noni, orange, grape, apple etc.- whatever.

If I buy a 6 pack of Powerade 365 g ( 12 oz ) bottles, they're about a $1 each per bottle ...for that, according to the nutironal lable, I get about 29 grams of carbs in a bottle of Powerade.

Powerade cost per gram of carb ........ 3.4 cents.

A bottle of Noni is about $50 ( Cdn ) per 1 litre ( 32 oz ) bottle. Each litre bottle of Noni has just under 100 grams of carbs in it.

Noni cost per gram of carb .............50 cents.

Noni is just juice ( Pure Juice Puree from French Polynesia, Natural Grape Juice Concentrate, Natural Blueberry Juice Concentrate, and Natural Flavors - per the website ) and the cost of a gram of carbs is 14 times more than a sports drink ! Let me put it another way........

- A bottle of Powerade ( 12 oz/ 365 grams ) will give you 29 carbs to fuel your muscles...... cost is $1.

- To get 29 carb grams from Noni, you need 10 oz - equivalent cost for 29 grams ...............cost is $15 !!!!!

You say " It can’t hurt you " - I say it can - in the pocket book. !!!!!

Want more energy ? Powerade for $1 ...Noni for $15 - it speaks for itself.