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**Official Boxing Thread** - Parker vs Fury Sat Sept.23 (3PM ET - INT Sports PPV)

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Ex fought like a machine on Saturday. He absolutely dissected Antonio with masterful feints, a tight defense, and mugging on the inside. Not to mention his lightning-fast straight and overhand rights!

I especially loved that sequence at the end of the 9th round (I think?) when Tarver missed a wild looping hook, and Bernard bounced off the ropes, grinned, shrugged at the crowd, and then bum-rushed the Magic Man back into the ropes with a shoe-shine flurry! The crowd ate it up! At 41, I think he may have truly and finally won over boxing fans. Good for him.

As for him hanging up the gloves, I too can see Ex fight one more time if the the conditions are to his liking. He's always been big on history and legacy in boxing, so I can't see him coming back if its to fight RandomJoe01, even if he gets paid $10mil. It'll probably take something like a Roy Jones II to get him back. Otherwise I see him being quite content doing his promotional work with Golden Boy.

As for this weekend's fight, I also love both fighters and will try to remain a neutral fan. A knockout is pretty unlikely in this one, when you factor in Winky's airtight D and average punching power. Should be interesting nonetheless!

Where are they fighting again? I figure the venue location may go a long way in dictating who gets the rounds and perhaps ultimately the decision ...
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damn, I have to wait until TSN replays it on TV to watch the Hopkins vs. Tarver fight. Just from reading the summary on ESPN, sounds like a very exciting fight. Well actually more one-sided as Tarver was reported to be slow, sluggish etc. Could be because he lost all that weight ? Similiar to Roy Jones Jr ?

Wright and Taylor are fighting in Memphis, Tenn. The live fight will be shown on HBO.

Good call on the no knock-outs. Winky is superb on D and doesn't have that punching power. But this will be a very technical fight I think. Should be interesting !
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ji2o0k wrote:damn, I have to wait until TSN replays it on TV to watch the Hopkins vs. Tarver fight. Just from reading the summary on ESPN, sounds like a very exciting fight.

Wright and Taylor are fighting in Memphis, Tenn. The live fight will be shown on HBO.
Whoops, sorry to spoil anything for ya. But yeah, watch out for the end of the 9th round, hehe. It was hilarity!

Is the upcoming fight regular HBO or PPV?

Also, did anyone catch Cotto-Malignaggi? Stupid boxing, having 2 PPV's on the same day ...
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joshtang10 wrote:Whoops, sorry to spoil anything for ya. But yeah, watch out for the end of the 9th round, hehe. It was hilarity!

Is the upcoming fight regular HBO or PPV?

Also, did anyone catch Cotto-Malignaggi? Stupid boxing, having 2 PPV's on the same day ...
No worries man, I am reading about the whole fight online, so doesn't really matter. Yeah they mentioned about the Tarver looping punch missing, Ex spinning, grinning and shrugging. Awesome.

I read that Malignaggi suffered a broken orbital bone and a possible broken jaw from that fight. Cotto is amazing.
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Malignaggi talked a good talk going in. Glad he backed it up with a strong performance, broken jaw and all!

Cotto needs to move up to 147. His weigh-in pic on Friday made him look like he was waken from the dead :confused:

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yeah.. i'll be watching for sure... prolly the same place i watch the hopkins/tarver fight

i watched the hopkins/tarver fight at shoeless joe's.... but it was pretty hard to find one that showed this and not the edmonton/carlonia game

but with the evisceration of tarver.... what does that say about roy jones losing twice to tarver??
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the taylor vs wright fight will be on TSN at 11:00 pm. Wont be live but at least its not PPV.
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botai wrote:yeah.. i'll be watching for sure... prolly the same place i watch the hopkins/tarver fight

i watched the hopkins/tarver fight at shoeless joe's.... but it was pretty hard to find one that showed this and not the edmonton/carlonia game

but with the evisceration of tarver.... what does that say about roy jones losing twice to tarver??
Honestly, not too much. Styles truly make fights.

I think RJJ, prime or faded, would have had some degree of difficulty against the style of Tarver. Antonio not only tall, he fights tall (i.e. using a good jab, standing straight) and has a pretty stingy and quick defense.

The Magic Man, on the other hand, I think matched up poorly with Ex. For instance, Bernard always, always, always makes you fight his methodical, low-risk style of fight, with the most recent examples being Trinidad, Joppy, De la Hoya, Taylor, and now Tarver. Tarver himself relies on countering. That's how he starched RJJ in their second fight, and stunned him badly in the 11th in their third fight (interestingly, I noticed that he wasn't looking at Roy with either defining punch - lucky lands, perhaps?) He isn't, and was never close to being on the same technical or tactical level as B-Hop. Thus, his strengths ended up being his weaknesses on Saturday.

Probably his only hope was to either land a lucky punch, or outmuscle Hopkins. Too bad Bernard came into the fight in incredible shape! He even looked bigger than Tonio :cheesygri

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If Oscar was naturally bigger he would've beat B-Hop. He was winning the fight until the body blow. Oscar just doesn't have it in his arsenal to hurt B-Hop.
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Irb wrote:If Oscar was naturally bigger he would've beat B-Hop. He was winning the fight until the body blow. Oscar just doesn't have it in his arsenal to hurt B-Hop.
Really? I had Bernard up a few points prior to the knockout. And I'm not entirely certain Oscar would beat him even if he was bigger. Bernard's technically brilliant, a true ring general, and Oscar likely would have fought the same type of fight whether he bulked up or boiled down. If he had to do the latter, his notoriously poor stamina would be even worse. Instead of starting to fade in the 5th-6th round like in the fight, I can see him sucking wind even earlier than that.

And I highly doubt that he knocks Hopkins out as a smaller or bigger man. The guy's got a great chin; Trinidad actually managed to left hook him a few times in their bout, and Nard went NOWHERE! Sure, Oscar knocked out Mayorga, but that was more a combination of counter-punching a wild-swinging brawler, Ricardo's non-existent defense, and Trinidad softening him up a bout earlier :twisted: :twisted:

This ought to be converted to a boxing thread or something, since RFD seems to be lacking one.
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so I decided to make this the official boxing talk thread on RFD. Couldn't find a previous thread like this so if you want to keep this one, just bump it.

Now on to the action. Who watched the Taylor vs Wright fight ? I watched the first few rounds on TSN at 11ish ET on that Saturday night. But I had to wake up early the next morning so didn't watch the whole thing.

So the match was a draw. From the first few rounds that I saw, it was definitely a very close match which was expected. But I am reading that Wright believes he was robbed and won't fight a re-match. Actually during negotiations Wright didn't want a re-match anyways I think and the only if Wright won would there be a re-match.

You guys think they will fight again ? I would definitely want to see that. Probably for the right price they will.
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Yay, a boxing thread.

I saw the fight. It was pretty action packed, with a fairly boisterous albeit small crowd. Given the magnitude of this fight (it was for the undisputed middleweight crown) I would've expected more attention and spectators. Though, I did hear rumblings of overly-inflated prices for tickets, which consequently led to all those empty seats.

In my opinion, Winky won by a few points. It was a pretty even battle with a lot of close rounds, and there were even a few bits of drama added in, namely the swelling shut of Jermain's left eye. It was probably the product of Jermain opting to use his face as his defense all night.

Overall though, it wasn't far fetched that a draw occurred.

Also, I felt the announcing was particularly biased in this fight. Everytime Jermain threw any punch of significance, Jim Lampley would have a joygasm or something and scream "Taylor with a blistering 4-punch combination that stops Winky RIGHT in his tracks!" followed meekly by a "Winky comes right back ..." So I can see how those who watched on HBO and listening to the commentators could feel that Jermain was winning, when the reality was that many of his punches were landing somewhere on Winky's guard (i.e. his gloves, arms, elbows, etc.)

I can definitely understand that its difficult to spot blazing fast shots that land and those that miss on a guy who almost always has his hands up, like Winky does. But honestly, I find that judges, when scoring defense in boxing, give much more credit to punches that completely miss the fighter vs. punches that hit the fighter's defensive guard. It can be difficult for fighters with styles like Winky to get their fair shake. Couple that with them being in Memphis, and Jermain being the reigning champ, and Winky was pretty much fighting an uphill battle to win the judges over.
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joshtang10 wrote:It can be difficult for fighters with styles like Winky to get their fair shake. Couple that with them being in Memphis, and Jermain being the reigning champ, and Winky was pretty much fighting an uphill battle to win the judges over.
From ESPN:
Wright, so upset with the decision, said he didn't want to fight Taylor again.

"What do you expect. I'm in [essentially] his hometown," Wright, 34, said. "They gave him what he wanted. I don't want no rematch," he said. "There are other fights out there. The fans know who won the fight."

Good point, exactly how Wright felt and commented after the match. When I was watching the first few rounds, Taylor kept his hands/guard so low. Wright was just peppering him with his jab since his hands were so low.

I was reading on ESPN that near the end of the 12th round, Wright wasn't punching and just moving around.......I think that was a mistake but Wright probably felt he won the match at that point.
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Well looks like the Golden Boy De La Hoya is going to make some sort of an announcement on Wednesday June 21.

Will he or won't he retire ? But one thing is for sure, he won't be fighting Mayweather on Sept.16.

What do you guys think ? I am thinking he will retire. He wanted to go out on top, he defeated Mayorga easily and looked good. He is getting up there in age and apparently he has all sorts of lingering ailments.

Plus even if De La Hoya did want to fight, he would only fight Mayweather. Which wouldn't be a contest I think. Mayweather would destroy the Golden Boy.

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