The Official UFC & MMA thread - UFC 160 - Velasquez vs Silva II - May 25th

[VCR]

thought so.

You don't remember his fights where he's been taken down?

[aTriangle]

you've never seen Anderson Silva even try to wrestle so how can you comment on that? you know why he doesn't even try? because he DOESN'T NEED TO.

You've said he doesn't need to wrestler, but are you saying he is a good wrestler?

[VCR]

i've seen all aspects of gsp's game. the only thing he's "excellent" at is wrestling. but who the f cares if he's excellent at wrestling if he can't even finish with the thing he's best at.

The advantage of having superior wrestling over your opponent is that you have the unique ability to control the fight in close quarters and bring it to the ground if desired.

[VCR]

do u know how draws work?? each round is a 10 point must, other fighter gets a 9 or less. in order for there to be a draw, there needs to be a 10-8 round somewhere in there. Watching that fight did u think there was a 10-8 round anywhere in there?

In rare instances, a round could be judged 10-10.

[phomp]

The advantage of having superior wrestling over your opponent is that you have the unique ability to control the fight in close quarters and bring it to the ground if desired.

Another advantage is it also limits what your opponent will do in the range when it comes to striking.
When you have a guy like GSP who can hit takedowns so effectively it makes it hard to open up your striking game when you fear being taken down.

How often do you see guys throw head kicks, or any kicks (shin kicks aside) for that matter at GSP? Hell, most guys do not even throw to loopy at him.

[VCR]

Another advantage is it also limits what your opponent will do in the range when it comes to striking.
When you have a guy like GSP who can hit takedowns so effectively it makes it hard to open up your striking game when you fear being taken down.

How often do you see guys throw head kicks, or any kicks (shin kicks aside) for that matter at GSP? Hell, most guys do not even throw to loopy at him.

Yes, wrestling isn't used to "finish" an opponent per se, but allows you to be in a superior position to do so like via GNP for example.

[nineiron]

You don't remember his fights where he's been taken down?

did you ever think about the fact that maybe he's not so concerned about being taken down because his BJJ is so good? it doesn't mean he has bad TDD. it just means he doesn't care and would rather preserve his energy to try to finish his opponent rather than use it to win a decision.

You've said he doesn't need to wrestler, but are you saying he is a good wrestler?

i don't know if he's a good wrestler.. but i'm sure he could be good at it if he wanted to.

[nineiron]

Another advantage is it also limits what your opponent will do in the range when it comes to striking.
When you have a guy like GSP who can LAY ON YOU so effectively it makes it hard to open up your striking game when you fear being LAYED ON.

fixed.

[aTriangle]

i don't know if he's a good wrestler.. but i'm sure he could be good at it if he wanted to.

Why are you sure he could be if he wanted to?

[VCR]

did you ever think about the fact that maybe he's not so concerned about being taken down because his BJJ is so good? it doesn't mean he has bad TDD. it just means he doesn't care and would rather preserve his energy to try to finish his opponent rather than use it to win a decision.

I don't think he wants to be put in the same situation that he faced versus Sonnen for five rounds, hoping for a last minute triangle. So against a top level wrestler, he should be concerned that he's not fighting where he is clearly superior at [stand up]. Like when he fought Maia, he kept it standing because he didn't want to willingly give his opponent a better chance of beating him.

[VCR]

Why are you sure he could be if he wanted to?

I'm sure he wanted to be dominated by Sonnen for almost five rounds before pulling off the dramatic triangle at the end.

[Evil Baby]

Anybody watching the Nick Diaz vs Braulio Estima no gi BJJ fight tonight amongst other BJJ matches?

http://www.mobileblackbelt.tv/

[aTriangle]

anybody watching the nick diaz vs braulio estima no gi bjj fight tonight amongst other bjj matches?

http://www.mobileblackbelt.tv/

yes! :d

[Evil Baby]

yes! :d

Good good,hopefully they get a lot of buys. $10 is a sweet price.

[nineiron]

I don't think he wants to be put in the same situation that he faced versus Sonnen for five rounds, hoping for a last minute triangle. So against a top level wrestler, he should be concerned that he's not fighting where he is clearly superior at [stand up]. Like when he fought Maia, he kept it standing because he didn't want to willingly give his opponent a better chance of beating him.

he toyed with Maia..