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speedyforme wrote:
Aug 21st, 2017 7:32 am
I'm surprised people did not like this summer. Aside from the random heavy rains, the sunny weathers were perfect. Never too hot or cold IMO and I hate the heat and humidity.
All depends WHERE you are (remember RFD Members post from right across Canada). Not everyone in Ontario lives in the GTA either, weather across this province alone has been VASTLY different with Eastern Ontario & West Quebec seeing one of the worst summers on record. I've gathered a few numbers for those who like stats:

Stats for 2017 Eastern Ontario (Ottawa nearest large city)

SEASONAL HIGH = 32.5 C on June 11th
SEASONAL LOW = -0.4 on May 9th
SEASONAL RAIN = 495 mm as of August 21st ... WAY WAY WAY above average.

MAY
HIGH 30.8 C on May 17th
LOW = -0.4 C on May 9th
RAIN = 181.3 mm
HEAT = 2 Days @ 30 C or over, but more telling only 10 Days in total that got to 20 C or more

JUNE
HIGH = 32.5 C on June 11th
LOW = 6.4 C on June 7th
RAIN = 136.5 mm
HEAT = 3 Days @ 30 C or over, but 7 Days that did not make it even to 20 C

JULY
HIGH = 29.5 C on July 18th
LOW = 11.2 C on July 30th
RAIN = 128.4 mm
HEAT = NO Days @ 30 C or over

AUGUST (So far)
HIGH = 30.0 C on August 2nd
LOW = 12.0 C on August 7th
RAIN = 48.8 mm
HEAT = 1 Day @ 30 C or over

This is August so far (our best month of the summer).  Stats do not include today, which has seen us with very humid weather (feels like 36 C) and a ton more rain... Right now we are in an Environment Canada Severe Weather / Tornado Watch. Astonished Face ugh !!!

Forecast for the rest of the month is more of the same... More rain & not enough sun, with below average temps (overnight lows coming this weekend in the single digits).

No two ways about it Summer 2017 has sucked here.
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Ilovejaneandfinch wrote:
Aug 22nd, 2017 10:43 am
Yes. That is why I said it looked like "6 pm type dimness"
Yes the light level was noticable. But basically the light level was so similar to usual daytime conditions that one would easily mistake it for merely thin clouds covering the sun.
To put it into perspective, when a little cloud went over the sun, the darkening of the environment was quite stark in comparison to what happened with the eclipse.
This was my experience as well in Eastern Ontario... A very subtle change, nothing dramatic.

Certainly nothing like the photo that @CenturyBreak posted above.

Got much darker here today in the midst of the huge thunderstorm that passed over this morning.

I remember vividly the various eclipses in my life (solar & lunar).

The various solar eclipses I saw in the 70s were mind blowing... Especially the one that was total. It actually became twilight in the Montreal area in the middle of the day.

Yesterday was by contrast... Hugely disappointing (hype here far out weighed reality).

Looking forward to the next TOTAL Solar Eclipse that is due to happen over Eastern Canada in April 2024 (hope it is a clear weather day for optimum viewing)

As total eclipses are so rare, 2024 will probably be my last opportunity to see one in my lifetime (unless I travel to catch one elsewhere)
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PointsHubby wrote:
Aug 22nd, 2017 3:00 pm
This was my experience as well in Eastern Ontario... A very subtle change, nothing dramatic.

Certainly nothing like the photo that @CenturyBreak posted above.

Got much darker here today in the midst of the huge thunderstorm that passed over this morning.

I remember vividly the various eclipses in my life (solar & lunar).

The various solar eclipses I saw in the 70s were mind blowing... Especially the one that was total. It actually became twilight in the Montreal area in the middle of the day.

Yesterday was by contrast... Hugely disappointing (hype here far out weighed reality).

Looking forward to the next TOTAL Solar Eclipse that is due to happen over Eastern Canada in April 2024 (hope it is a clear weather day for optimum viewing)

As total eclipses are so rare, 2024 will probably be my last opportunity to see one in my lifetime (unless I travel to catch one elsewhere)
Yeah I had no idea that 72% coverage would leave outside looking so 'normal' for daytime hours.
As for 2024, there will be tons of potential viewing locations right in Canada alone.

What CenturyBreak posted did happen in Ontario, if you looked for it. It was just too easy to miss because you need the right conditions with a flat surface.
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GTA: Cool days for the rest of the week
Cooler temperatures are expected for the rest of the week, with temperatures on Thursday hitting a high of only 20 degrees. Adam Stiles with your seven day forecast.

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Chilly this morning, had to put on a little sweater.

Although weather looks gorgeous for my brother's wedding this weekend. Lucky him, we got rained all day for ours lol
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My model analysis for Sept as for now projects quite the cold picture for that month.
Starting exactly a week from now, right on the long weekend and before school even starts, the cold will just come raging in!
If things stay mostly the same as I see now in my models, we are looking at a steady stream of highs just in the mid to upper teens, effectively cutting off summer for all of next week!
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Ilovejaneandfinch wrote:
Aug 27th, 2017 7:30 am
My model analysis for Sept as for now projects quite the cold picture for that month.
Starting exactly a week from now, right on the long weekend and before school even starts, the cold will just come raging in!
If things stay mostly the same as I see now in my models, we are looking at a steady stream of highs just in the mid to upper teens, effectively cutting off summer for all of next week!
This is awesome news. It seems this year winter will be earlier. Temps are now in the mid 20s. It's getting darker earlier and later in the morning. And the best if all? You wouldn't have to deal with spiders in winter!
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Aug 27th, 2017 11:24 am
This is awesome news. It seems this year winter will be earlier. Temps are now in the mid 20s. It's getting darker earlier and later in the morning. And the best if all? You wouldn't have to deal with spiders in winter!
Lol yes. Thank god!

If I see one stray, I will put it out in the snow and joyfully watch as it trembles and twitches in the snow till eventual death.
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We have been having weather in the 20s, this week will be hitting 30+ some days and sunny.
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natalka wrote:
Aug 27th, 2017 1:28 pm
We have been having weather in the 20s, this week will be hitting 30+ some days and sunny.
I was just looking at your forecast and realized that it is still all hot up there. How could things be so cold in Toronto if you have been hot all summer and will continue that way!
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Ilovejaneandfinch wrote:
Aug 27th, 2017 7:30 am
My model analysis for Sept as for now projects quite the cold picture for that month.
Starting exactly a week from now, right on the long weekend and before school even starts, the cold will just come raging in!
If things stay mostly the same as I see now in my models, we are looking at a steady stream of highs just in the mid to upper teens, effectively cutting off summer for all of next week!
Cold? Next week? Highs in the upper teens to mid-20s?

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Temps in the teens aren't cold... middle-of-the-night lows in the high single digits a month from now, where they're appropriate, aren't cold.

Now... if you tell me your models show a prolonged period of sustained sub-freezing temps sometime in September, I'll defer and allow the use of the word "cold"... until then, we'll still have to wait 'til December for some cold... and even then it still won't be enough cold!

I'm pretty sure this autumn will be like the last three or four, where I've still had to cut the grass in late November and probably shoulda done it again in December!!! Grinning Face With Smiling Eyes
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CenturyBreak wrote:
Aug 28th, 2017 10:17 am
Cold? Next week? Highs in the upper teens to mid-20s?

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Temps in the teens aren't cold... middle-of-the-night lows in the high single digits a month from now, where they're appropriate, aren't cold.

Now... if you tell me your models show a prolonged period of sustained sub-freezing temps sometime in September, I'll defer and allow the use of the word "cold"... until then, we'll still have to wait 'til December for some cold... and even then it still won't be enough cold!

I'm pretty sure this autumn will be like the last three or four, where I've still had to cut the grass in late November and probably shoulda done it again in December!!! Grinning Face With Smiling Eyes
"cold" is relative. It won't feel good after being used to the heat.
The right word is already in the title anyways. "chilly"

EDIT:
Before dictionary searching the word, I had a feeling that I was not misusing the word:
"cold"
"of or at a low or relatively low temperature, especially when compared with the human body."
Relative. Exactly what I said above.

Notice how people in this country have the habit of saying things like "eat your soup before it gets cold" when we are not sitting on an iceberg, but in a room temperature house! Now even I like to dispute that kind of phrase lol. But that is how the word is used.
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Ilovejaneandfinch wrote:
Aug 28th, 2017 10:56 am
"cold" is relative. It won't feel good after being used to the heat.
The right word is already in the title anyways. "chilly"

EDIT:
Before dictionary searching the word, I had a feeling that I was not misusing the word:
"cold"
"of or at a low or relatively low temperature, especially when compared with the human body."
Relative. Exactly what I said above.

Notice how people in this country have the habit of saying things like "eat your soup before it gets cold" when we are not sitting on an iceberg, but in a room temperature house! Now even I like to dispute that kind of phrase lol. But that is how the word is used.
Actually, it'll feel great after being used to the heat! :D There's rarely anything enjoyable about summer in southern Ontario, so this is a return to pleasant weather after the unpleasantness of summer. :)

I'll admit that this summer hasn't been as miserable as the past few, which were torture, but we still had a sh!t-tonne of hot weather (in the 30s, humid, etc.) especially since the end of June.

As for definitions, I'll defer to Merriam-Webster for the moment:
Definition of cold
1 a : having or being a temperature that is uncomfortably low for humans
In no version of reality could upper teens to low 20s be considered "uncomfortably low", so again, "cold" doesn't apply to next week! Comfortable, pleasant, welcome... these would be words associated with the weather... not "cold"! Smiling Face With Sunglasses

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