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Ontario: Eco-madness out of control!

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Ontario: Eco-madness out of control!

You may know me here as the anti-5-cent bag crusader. Well, the slippery slope just got a lot more stupid this month:

http://www.makethedrop.ca/sites/default ... rdFees.pdf

When you stock up on these items, make sure you're paying the correct fee for destroying the environment by having purchased them (Seriously, I can't make this stuff up):

Headache relief $0.02 for 1000
Liquid cough medication $0.01 per litre
Anti fungal foot cream $0.07 per kilogram
Topical spray prescribed by a doctor $0.06 per litre
Prescription medication pills (e.g., antibiotic) $0.12 per 1000
Topical cream prescribed by a doctor $0.52 per kilogram
Asthma inhaler $7.76 for 1000 units
Hand soap $0.20 for 100 litres
Vitamin C dry tablets $0.05 per 1000
natural health product pills $0.005 per 100
B12 chewable gummies $0.01 per 250
Powder vitamin supplement $0.14 per 750-grams
Liquid vitamin in a dropper $0.02 per litre

Considering how badly overcharged people have been, watch out!

http://www.thestar.com/business/article ... fee-errors
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I'm sure there will be mistakes, but it's hard to dismiss the general theme. We are heavily subsidized.
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I'm laughing my ass off at $0.14 for CFL bulbs.

Last year they were going to save the planet... now... oops? I guess they realized whats going to happen when a few hundred million of them wind up at landfills.

Not that 14 copper pennies can do anything about toxic mercury vapor anyway.. still good for a lol.
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Jul 15th, 2010 4:27 pm
I'm laughing my ass off at $0.14 for CFL bulbs.

Last year they were going to save the planet... now... oops? I guess they realized whats going to happen when a few hundred million of them wind up at landfills.

Not that 14 copper pennies can do anything about toxic mercury vapor anyway.. still good for a lol.
Weird fact: When you combine mercury, copper, and some other stuff, you get dental amalgam.
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It's getting better. There was an article to positioning toll rolls as green initiative. $$$$ ka ching $$$$$
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Wonder how many people get who Stewardship ON (responsible for the orange drop eco fee) is? I bet few realize the bod is the manufacturers adn stores(including Can tire fingered for the massive overcharging)



* Who We Are

The Board consists of 16 directors, 14 elected by qualified voting organizations whose members are stewards and two independent directors appointed by the elected directors. Given the growing importance of environmental Stewardship as a public policy objective, Stewardship Ontario is aware of the need for independent representation free of commercial ties to either Blue Box or MHSW wastes to provide an independent, external perspective to the governance of the Stewardship Ontario enterprise. The Board also believes that governance disclosure is as critical as financial disclosure. Accordingly, the annual report to stakeholders (including the Ministry of the Environment, Waste Diversion Ontario and Stewards) includes a report on the Board’s performance for the previous year, any issues identified as well as measures that will be undertaken to promote continuous improvement in governance and board-related matters.
The current Board includes:

* Ian Anderson, President, CKF Incorporated
* Debbie Baxter, Chief Sustainability Officer, LoyaltyOne Incorporated
* Diane Brisebois, President and CEO, Retail Council of Canada
* Tamara Burns, Divisional VP Specialty Services, Leisure and Seasonal, Sears
* John Coyne, VP, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary, Unilever Canada Inc.
* Robert Chant, VP, Corporate Affairs, Loblaw Companies Ltd.
* Ron Davidson, VP, Human Resources, Apotex Incorporated
* Calla Farn, VP, Government, Public Affairs and Corporate Affairs, McCain Foods
* Mark Malo, President, Clorox Company of Canada Ltd.
* Sylvain Mayrand, Executive Vice President, A. Lassonde Industries Incorporated
* Reg McLay, SVP Marketing & Sourcing Services, Canadian Tire Corporation
* Brian Prendergast, Senior VP, Consumer, Recochem Incorporated
* Gordon Meyer, Business Unit Director, Food and Beverage, Pet Care and Home Care, Procter & Gamble
* Jim Quick, President and CEO, Canadian Paint and Coatings Association
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Just wait till they start charging carbon tax on everything.
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I am generally for and agree with such things as carbon taxes, eco-fees and road-tolls if and only if the money actually goes towards what they're supposed to do (i.e. paying for waste disposal, improving public transit, subsidize research and development of alternative energy etc.) and not lining the government's/politician's pocket books (which sadly, is usually the case).
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shepd wrote:
Jul 15th, 2010 4:16 pm
Hand soap $0.20 for 100 litres[/url]
I never knew liquid soap was sold in 100l barrels! :eek:
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It's not clear at all at this point as to what Stewardship Ontario actually does, other than collecting massive amounts of cash and hiring bunches of overpaid executives and consultants.

Just to show off the austere and frugal ways in which they run the operation they had a sprawling booth at the Green Living show in April with a bunch of people sporting IPads (which at that point weren't even for sale in Canada), which served no discernible purpose.

In therms of recycling points, all of the "Orange Drop Off" locations (HHW depots, enviro-days) where there before and independently of them, funded by the municipalities.

Now that they are in the game does that mean that the Blue Bin program in TO will be paid for by them and not the city? I'm holding my breath for a property tax refund.
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Today I was on the bus downtown and the bus goes down a street with a lot of sex shops.

I saw a very funny sign on the sidewalk.
I would have taken a pic but that meant getting off the bus.

Sign said:

"There is no Eco-Fee on dildos and sex toys" :lol:

Not making this up at all.
Kinda akward seeing that on a sign outside on the sidewalk.
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Charge me the ecotax at store level and that is where I drop the empty or used product. DONE
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gostinger wrote:
Jul 17th, 2010 8:28 pm
charge me the ecotax at store level and that is where i drop the empty or used product. Done
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shepd wrote:
Jul 15th, 2010 4:16 pm
You may know me here as the anti-5-cent bag crusader. Well, the slippery slope just got a lot more stupid this month:

http://www.makethedrop.ca/sites/default ... rdFees.pdf

When you stock up on these items, make sure you're paying the correct fee for destroying the environment by having purchased them (Seriously, I can't make this stuff up):

Headache relief $0.02 for 1000
Liquid cough medication $0.01 per litre
Anti fungal foot cream $0.07 per kilogram
Topical spray prescribed by a doctor $0.06 per litre
Prescription medication pills (e.g., antibiotic) $0.12 per 1000
Topical cream prescribed by a doctor $0.52 per kilogram
Asthma inhaler $7.76 for 1000 units
Hand soap $0.20 for 100 litres
Vitamin C dry tablets $0.05 per 1000
natural health product pills $0.005 per 100
B12 chewable gummies $0.01 per 250
Powder vitamin supplement $0.14 per 750-grams
Liquid vitamin in a dropper $0.02 per litre

Considering how badly overcharged people have been, watch out!

http://www.thestar.com/business/article ... fee-errors
Don't go along with ths crap by calling these "fees." Call them for what they are - "taxes." The government has decided to go the airline route - charge for every little thing. Raise money by suddenly charging fees for things that used to covered by tax money. Then they can claim it is for a noble cause. But the bottom lines is that's it's still a tax. And it is all extremely regressive taxation at that. They let the wealthy inherit with no tax and that charge the poorest members of society and the middle class carry the brunt with these "fees."

Add the HST and the land transfer tax and you can barely breathe in the #%#$@$ province anymore without the government reaching into your pocket. But hey, Canadians are sheep. It's only going to get worse. Keep up the good work, voting in the Liberals and NDP mayors like Miller. Mel Lastman used to run North North with a huge surplus without all this crap.
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I'm just waiting for the day *someone* realizes that we all make methane on a daily basis!

What will they charge for THAT???

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