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Ontario is going to find out if guaranteed minimum income will ease poverty.

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Sanyo wrote:
Jan 27th, 2017 11:20 pm
Free Income
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Free benefits

I guess the money is coming out of someone's butt!
I find it ridiculous that no one bats an eyelash at billions of dollars in corporate welfare, but spending money on helping the poor will ruin us.
Why can we always afford more corporate welfare, the dead money keeps accumulating yet no one says lets stop throwing more money at them
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Quentin5 wrote:
Jan 27th, 2017 11:25 pm
I find it ridiculous that no one bats an eyelash at billions of dollars in corporate welfare, but spending money on helping the poor will ruin us.
Why can we always afford more corporate welfare, the dead money keeps accumulating yet no one says lets stop throwing more money at them
Cause businesses contribute to jobs and we have to compete with a global world (thats the flip side to globalization).

No offence, but what do the poor contribute?
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Sanyo wrote:
Feb 13th, 2017 7:52 pm
Cause businesses contribute to jobs and we have to compete with a global world (thats the flip side to globalization).

No offence, but what do the poor contribute?
What is the ROI on trickle down economics?
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tk1000 wrote:
Feb 13th, 2017 7:50 pm
A universal basic income will become necessary because of all the jobs that will be lost to automation in the coming years, says the founder and CEO of Tesla Motors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/02/13 ... 26890.html
true, when to start and how much?
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Quentin5 wrote:
Jan 27th, 2017 11:25 pm
I find it ridiculous that no one bats an eyelash at billions of dollars in corporate welfare, but spending money on helping the poor will ruin us.
Why can we always afford more corporate welfare, the dead money keeps accumulating yet no one says lets stop throwing more money at them
How about no free money for anyone?
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Quentin5 wrote:
Jan 27th, 2017 11:25 pm
I find it ridiculous that no one bats an eyelash at billions of dollars in corporate welfare, but spending money on helping the poor will ruin us.
Why can we always afford more corporate welfare, the dead money keeps accumulating yet no one says lets stop throwing more money at them
No one bats an eyelash? C'mon, you know perfectly well that corporate welfare is controversial and a lot of people (myself included) object to it.

http://business.financialpost.com/fp-co ... st-instead
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hagbard wrote:
Feb 15th, 2017 6:54 am
How about no free money for anyone?
That won't work in any type of functional society. There will always be people in need. Always. I'd rather they get money legally than breaking down my door.
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Chickinvic wrote:
Feb 16th, 2017 2:25 pm
That won't work in any type of functional society. There will always be people in need. Always. I'd rather they get money legally than breaking down my door.
That's why we have cops.
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Archanfel wrote:
Feb 16th, 2017 2:36 pm
That's why we have cops.
to take notes of crime scenes?

I think you're confusing them for body guards or armed private security contractors. lol
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Quentin5 wrote:
Jan 27th, 2017 11:25 pm
I find it ridiculous that no one bats an eyelash at billions of dollars in corporate welfare, but spending money on helping the poor will ruin us.
Why can we always afford more corporate welfare, the dead money keeps accumulating yet no one says lets stop throwing more money at them
Plenty of people bat their eyelashes at corporate welfare. The problem is the whores at the top don't give a shit about the little guy. I would say that the vast majority of Canadians disagree with "starve the poor, welfare for the rich."
tk1000 wrote:
Feb 13th, 2017 7:50 pm
A universal basic income will become necessary because of all the jobs that will be lost to automation in the coming years, says the founder and CEO of Tesla Motors.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/02/13 ... 26890.html
I've been saying this for years. The real crisis comes upon the mass implementation of intelligent, and non-intelligent but skilled robots. It will happen, and has been happening for decades. People are too shortsighted to see the damage this will cause, especially as populations increase, resources decrease, and identity politics rule. Expect something bad to happen once it crosses the apex.
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WontonTiger wrote:
Feb 16th, 2017 8:07 pm
Plenty of people bat their eyelashes at corporate welfare. The problem is the whores at the top don't give a shit about the little guy. I would say that the vast majority of Canadians disagree with "starve the poor, welfare for the rich."
So why do we keep electing right wing alternative facts, they screw us over, we vote center, then back to right, then back to center. If there is such backlash why do we have people arguing for the "job creators" while vilifying the poor?
Donald Trump ran on lies, racism and trickle down economics, his rabid supporters believe the garbage he spews, they vote for it and blame scapegoats when it keeps failing or reality bites back.

I wish i was wrong, i would love an end to corporate tax cuts, corporate welfare and corporate favourtism. There is more then enough dead money in their hands already, in fact its larger then our national debt the last item i checked. Personally i would rather have no national debt then dead money. Voters obviously disagree with me
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Chickinvic wrote:
Feb 16th, 2017 2:25 pm
That won't work in any type of functional society. There will always be people in need. Always. I'd rather they get money legally than breaking down my door.
There is such a thing as private aid. It's only relatively recently in history that humans started to act as though infinite accumulation of personal wealth was the point of life. For most of our history that was not the case, and people cared far more about community, family, and country. Either way, subjecting yourself to a massive and inefficient government that you have almost no control over seems to me like the worse possible solution to there being people in need.
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Quentin5 wrote:
Feb 16th, 2017 8:14 pm
So why do we keep electing right wing alternative facts, they screw us over, we vote center, then back to right, then back to center.
Maybe because we have figured out that socialist/communist political parties, when in power, end up screwing us all?

If you have not done so already, you should read "Animal Farm", or at least watch the movie.

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CheapScotch wrote:
Feb 16th, 2017 9:01 pm
Maybe because we have figured out that socialist/communist political parties, when in power, end up screwing us all?
With the number of times you compare progressives with communism i'm starting to wonder if your a closeted communist.
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