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[Ontario] Holiday Shopping Bylaw [in force January 1, 2018]

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[Ontario] Holiday Shopping Bylaw [in force January 1, 2018]

RETAIL BUSINESS HOLIDAY ACT EXEMPTIONS

The Retail Business Holidays Act does not allow certain retail businesses to be open on nine specific holidays: New Year’s Day, Family Day, Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Victoria Day, Canada Day, Labour Day, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day, and any other day proclaimed by the Lieutenant Governor.

Regional Council may pass a bylaw to allow retail businesses to open on any of these nine holidays, to promote tourism, if the business meets the requirements of the Act and the Tourism Criteria in Ontario Regulation 711/91.

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Just tourism? Nix the stupid act.

Edit: Nvm this is just Ontario (or more specifically, York municipality). Not an issue in Alberta.

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Yea, either tourism designation or Chinese businesses in Markham.
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Staff should be allowed to relax with family members. We don't need malls to be open more. If you really want to shop go online. If shopping is the only thing for tourists to do then this is a sad province.
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Pacific Mall is tourist site?
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webshark wrote:
Nov 19th, 2017 11:30 pm
Staff should be allowed to relax with family members. We don't need malls to be open more. If you really want to shop go online. If shopping is the only thing for tourists to do then this is a sad province.
Maybe for Christmas people want to spend the time with their family, but not everyone has Victoria Day or Labour Day plans. Also, since employers have to pay a person 1.5 times their wages on holidays (in addition to holiday wages) it can help low-income earners pay the bills.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote:
Nov 20th, 2017 12:41 pm
Maybe for Christmas people want to spend the time with their family, but not everyone has Victoria Day or Labour Day plans. Also, since employers have to pay a person 1.5 times their wages on holidays (in addition to holiday wages) it can help low-income earners pay the bills.
Ya but by upholding the Ontario Statutory Holiday Act, then folks have the choice of actually making plans to enjoy the day with Friends & Family.

If The Act is undermined too much, then the employee could end up in a situation where they have no choice at all (or feels pressured to work by the Employer, not by their own determination).

I get the need for some specific arguments / areas being in contradiction to The Act with Municipal Bylaws regarding what is deemed to be an area for Tourists... This exists in most (all ?) major Cdn Cities already.

But it should not be a free for all IMO.

10 to 12 Stats a Year (depends on the Province... and how they count the likes of Remembrance Day & Provincial Civic Holiday) is not unrealistic or too much IMO. They are most welcome by the poor & middle classes. These things have been so since the 1960s or earlier (except for Family Day) ... they should not be up for debate (again a slippery slope). They are an important part of the Cdn fabric.

Or as most Cdns comment on how important those various long weekends are May thru October (Victoria Day Weekend - Canada Day - Civic Weekend - Labour Day Weekend - Thanksgiving Weekend) when we finally have decent enough weather to enjoy some time off & get outside.
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Square One Mall (MIssissauga, ON) got the tourist exemption about two or three years ago.
Toronto's Eaton Centre is the best known area for the tourist exemption but it does close on Christmas.
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PointsHubby wrote:
Nov 20th, 2017 2:11 pm
Ya but by upholding the Ontario Statutory Holiday Act, then folks have the choice of actually making plans to enjoy the day with Friends & Family.

If The Act is undermined too much, then the employee could end up in a situation where they have no choice at all (or feels pressured to work by the Employer, not by their own determination).

I get the need for some specific arguments / areas being in contradiction to The Act with Municipal Bylaws regarding what is deemed to be an area for Tourists... This exists in most (all ?) major Cdn Cities already.

But it should not be a free for all IMO.

10 to 12 Stats a Year (depends on the Province... and how they count the likes of Remembrance Day & Provincial Civic Holiday) is not unrealistic or too much IMO. They are most welcome by the poor & middle classes. These things have been so since the 1960s or earlier (except for Family Day) ... they should not be up for debate (again a slippery slope). They are an important part of the Cdn fabric.

Or as most Cdns comment on how important those various long weekends are May thru October (Victoria Day Weekend - Canada Day - Civic Weekend - Labour Day Weekend - Thanksgiving Weekend) when we finally have decent enough weather to enjoy some time off & get outside.
I dunno...when I was a security guard we always had to have people at work even on the holidays (at reduced staffing levels). We never "forced" anyone to work because there were more than enough people who wanted the holiday pay.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 4:09 pm
I dunno...when I was a security guard we always had to have people at work even on the holidays (at reduced staffing levels). We never "forced" anyone to work because there were more than enough people who wanted the holiday pay.
All well and good, in your example, in that people were making their own determinations on whether they worked or not.

I am old enough to remember when there were NO CHOICES ... 1950s & 1960s... Holiday Stats were few, and Employers had the upper hand at all times... you did not get to pick / choose anything as an Employee. Everything was DICTATED.

It was the Unions that fought for these changes... that in turned changed society.

Doing away with hard earned labour changes is a slippery slope... BIG Corps have no conscience, you open the door a smidge, and they’ll ram right on thru
Ya but by upholding the Ontario Statutory Holiday Act, then folks have the choice of actually making plans to enjoy the day with Friends & Family.

If The Act is undermined too much, then the employee could end up in a situation where they have no choice at all (or feels pressured to work by the Employer, not by their own determination).
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Being legally able to stay open and forcing people to work that day are two entirely separate topics.
No one's forcing you to work that day.
There are plenty of people that don't celebrate Christmas who would gladly take the extra cash for working what is just another Monday.

If you don't want to work it, don't. But I see no issue in letting those that want to, to do so.
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If these retail workers have to work all these holidays, why is it even labelled a holiday then?

Never in favour of taking workers holidays away. No support from me.

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