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[Ontario] Are Transfer Appraisals foolproof and allowable by the MTO for private sales?

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[Ontario] Are Transfer Appraisals foolproof and allowable by the MTO for private sales?

Going to buy a car off a friend and someone on RFD tipped me off that when he sold a car, the buyer saved a lot on HST by doing this Transfer Appraisal. Any other places to get this done cheap since it seems it can be done online with photographs and a few other details?


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Lol I’m not sure but let me know though lol this is the new thing to get around that black book valve from mto which shouldn’t be charged again and again and again when you transfer cars like what the hell is that about.
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shawn01 wrote: Lol I’m not sure but let me know though lol this is the new thing to get around that black book valve from mto which shouldn’t be charged again and again and again when you transfer cars like what the hell is that about.
I will PM you if I succeed :)
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In my experience, MTO took either the book value or appraised value, which ever was more expensive, lol.
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I bought a non-running '08 Ford Fusion SEL AWD V6 from my coworker for $1000. Wholesale value according to the used vehicle information package was $4000. After purchasing, I had it appraised in non-running condition at a value of $1000. When I took the paperwork to the MTO, they used the $1000 appraised value.
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Per the MTO:
https://www.ontario.ca/page/buy-or-sell ... le-ontario
If you paid less than the Canadian Red Book value, you can get the vehicle appraised before changing ownership.

If the appraisal supports a lower price than the Canadian Red Book, you will pay tax based on the higher of the purchase price and the appraised value.
So yes, it can work, but I would strongly advise against committing fraud (having it appraised for less than you paid or reporting you paid less than you did).
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It does work....... have done it in the past.
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A little off topic. Be mindful of low ball appraisals and how that will affect insurance assuming that the car will be insured for collision.
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will888 wrote: A little off topic. Be mindful of low ball appraisals and how that will affect insurance assuming that the car will be insured for collision.
Do MTO transaction data get transmitted to insurers?

I'm not condoning fraud and if appraisers were doing the en masse, the MTO would have shut that avenue down.
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I had to do a transfer appraisal. And I remember somewhere in the process I was told that a transfer appraisal, and an insurance appraisal are different. The insurance appraisal is more detailed.

I don't think the sale price reported to MTO gets communicated to your insurance company. They just go by blackbook/market value.

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