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Those games all benefit from being longstanding games on a platform with BC and are basically considered "games as a service".

Nobody would be playing counterstrike if it was the same iteration of counterstrike that was played 15 years ago. They took the core of the game and made a number of huge improvements with its graphics, matchmaking, and progression systems. Dota 2/LOL literally was just a copy of some user created content in Warcraft 3 that they curated and improved upon. I wouldnt put TF2 in the same league as those other games but it also benefited from some quite a bit of added content and curation, the game that released 10+ years ago is a far cry from the game that is F2P today. These games rely on non-game effecting skins and hats to remain profitable.

This is also a completely different business model then console games which rely on 60$ yearly releases which add a flashy campaign and a few upgrades to the multiplayer game but split the community every year.

Overwatch is interesting because it follows the "games as a service" F2P business model but has a 60$ price tag which it can get away with launching day and date on console (people are used to this business model). I expect as time goes on it will steadily drop its price until it is a F2P game. There is no doubt in my mind that this game will be played for a long time though
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MaximDude wrote:
May 26th, 2016 7:07 pm
In OW there's nothing special you need to learn to be good. Just run around and start shooting and learn to work with your teammates and that's about it.
Well, since we're oversimplifying things... All you need to be an astronaut is put on a space suit and get on a rocket. No big deal. I'll agree when you say it's noob friendly in the sense that anyone can pick it up and have some fun but by no means will they be any good. Running around and shooting doesn't make you good. It makes you bad. Anyone who tries to run and gun in Overwatch like you would in COD basically gets cleaned up immediately.

The game certainly needs some improvements and by no means is it the perfect game. But it's not the same as The Division where the hype is completely out of sync with the reality of the game. I think since we're dealing with Blizzard here we can expect a good amount of future support for the game which hopefully includes some sort of competitive format.
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SpicYMchaggis wrote:
May 27th, 2016 10:28 am
Overwatch is interesting because it follows the "games as a service" F2P business model but has a 60$ price tag which it can get away with launching day and date on console (people are used to this business model). I expect as time goes on it will steadily drop its price until it is a F2P game. There is no doubt in my mind that this game will be played for a long time though
I kind of thought that's how people talked about Star Wars Battlefront, that it would be continually built upon, adding to the universe. But yet here they are already talking about Battlefront 2, so it's just going to follow the same model as BF and CoD.


Unless I got that wrong some time in the past.
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SpicYMchaggis wrote:
May 27th, 2016 10:28 am
Those games all benefit from being longstanding games on a platform with BC and are basically considered "games as a service".

Nobody would be playing counterstrike if it was the same iteration of counterstrike that was played 15 years ago. They took the core of the game and made a number of huge improvements with its graphics, matchmaking, and progression systems. Dota 2/LOL literally was just a copy of some user created content in Warcraft 3 that they curated and improved upon. I wouldnt put TF2 in the same league as those other games but it also benefited from some quite a bit of added content and curation, the game that released 10+ years ago is a far cry from the game that is F2P today. These games rely on non-game effecting skins and hats to remain profitable.

This is also a completely different business model then console games which rely on 60$ yearly releases which add a flashy campaign and a few upgrades to the multiplayer game but split the community every year.

Overwatch is interesting because it follows the "games as a service" F2P business model but has a 60$ price tag which it can get away with launching day and date on console (people are used to this business model). I expect as time goes on it will steadily drop its price until it is a F2P game. There is no doubt in my mind that this game will be played for a long time though
I couldn't agree more. Considering the enormous rise in eSports popularity, I think this is the perfect trojan horse for Blizzard to sidle into that niche and make a permanent home. It's been masterfully engineered to be the FPS equivalent of DOTA from the ground up - lots of replay value, deep strategy and light throw-away action to attract casual gamers, interesting and diverse characters with distinct classes and visual polish. It's going to explode. No doubts about that.
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raspeed wrote:
May 27th, 2016 11:44 am
I kind of thought that's how people talked about Star Wars Battlefront, that it would be continually built upon, adding to the universe. But yet here they are already talking about Battlefront 2, so it's just going to follow the same model as BF and CoD.


Unless I got that wrong some time in the past.
Blizzard does a lot of things wrong, but ignoring games is not one of them. Diablo 2's latest patch was April 2016. May I remind you that game was released May 2000, and brings in no subscriber or recurring revenue?
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You provide them with your business after appying 20 coupons, breaking out the fine print in their price-match policies, printing out price-errors with requests that they honour the erroneous price, and returning 9 out of 10 products you purchased over the year.
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raspeed wrote:
May 27th, 2016 11:44 am
I kind of thought that's how people talked about Star Wars Battlefront, that it would be continually built upon, adding to the universe. But yet here they are already talking about Battlefront 2, so it's just going to follow the same model as BF and CoD.


Unless I got that wrong some time in the past.
I think that was the hopes of many, but there was nothing out there that actually indicated that's how it would work
DDC wrote:
May 27th, 2016 7:23 pm
Blizzard does a lot of things wrong, but ignoring games is not one of them. Diablo 2's latest patch was April 2016. May I remind you that game was released May 2000, and brings in no subscriber or recurring revenue?
Yeah, I am really not worried about some pretty good long term support for the game. Should be getting ranked by end of next month which is the big one for me and I would expect to see some more content as well in the future.
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Not that it matters a whole lot, but for anyone who bought this on PS4 is the primary language on the back of the packaging french? I'm outside Quebec, but the primary language on the back is French, the game is english, just thought this was weird.
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So the sick and twisted people who get off on Overwatch porn are going to be real disappointed soon. Blizzard issued a cease and desist to every site in North America that's hosting it.

Personally, I don't understand how anyone gets off on animated porn... like come on.. =/

http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-porn-i ... d-offline/
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JKKim2983 wrote:
May 29th, 2016 3:34 pm
So the sick and twisted people who get off on Overwatch porn are going to be real disappointed soon. Blizzard issued a cease and desist to every site in North America that's hosting it.

Personally, I don't understand how anyone gets off on animated porn... like come on.. =/

http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-porn-i ... d-offline/
Personally, I think you judging people for their preferences is much worse.
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JKKim2983 wrote:
May 29th, 2016 3:34 pm
So the sick and twisted people who get off on Overwatch porn are going to be real disappointed soon. Blizzard issued a cease and desist to every site in North America that's hosting it.

Personally, I don't understand how anyone gets off on animated porn... like come on.. =/

http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-porn-i ... d-offline/
Different strokes for different folks (pun 100% intended). It's not my thing either but I wouldn't go as far to call them "sick and twisted."
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Overwatch's new patch includes Lucioball (aka ghetto Rocket League) and summer games skins
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Ever since competitive season 1 ended, I haven't feel the same about the game. Quick Play is a mess and we are in dire need of new characters and maps (plural, not just 1 every two months).
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I agree, I'm pretty bored with it already. Hopefully Sombra comes soon but even with her and the new map, it won't make much difference.
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I think I've played once since Ana came out. I tested her out in PTR for a bit, played a few casual games once she actually came out but haven't since. even the whole olympics themed stuff didn't appeal to me. this is coming from somebody who was crazy about OW at the beginning. just can't find much motivation to play it atm.. though a lot of that has to do with me going out to hunt for pokemon go at night :\

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