Hey guys ,
I am really looking into buy this TV:
http://m.bestbuy.ca/defaultpage.aspx...ecs&lang=en-CA
I was wondering if anyone that owns the TV could comment on how good the set was for gaming?
I play a ton of FPS games, so minimal lag time would be ideal.
This TV is really hot right now since Panasonic has been doing an amazing job so far in 2012, I saw it in some best buy's ( I know all their settings and everything are horrible there and what not.... I work for microsoft so i definitely know ) but in terms of picture quality this seemed to beat anything else I seen for this price point
Does anyone knows of any comparable LED models with great PQ and minimal lag time for that price ?
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Aug 4th, 2012 03:08 AM #1
Panasonic Vierra ST50 - Thoughts ?
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Aug 4th, 2012 08:51 AM #2
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Aug 4th, 2012 11:16 AM #3
I have an ST30 from a year or two ago and don't regret it. It's a very natural-looking picture (once calibrated properly) and wouldn't want any kind of LCD as a substitute.
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Aug 4th, 2012 01:48 PM #4
According to various review sites, one of the BEST, if not the best for your money, TVs out there for plasmas.
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Aug 4th, 2012 04:09 PM #5
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Aug 4th, 2012 06:30 PM #6
I'm looking at this too. Anyone own this and have it in a really bright room? My condo faces west so the evening sun really lights up the room and I'm concerned it'll was it out.
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Aug 4th, 2012 07:03 PM #7
Here is a review of the ST50 and it does address bright lighting (on the second page). However, the way you describe the evening sun (and assuming you have no light control during this period), it may or may not work for you satisfactorily.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-35118300.html
Another alternative is the Samsung E6500 Plasma which is reviewed here:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-t...-35159642.html
I quote from the second page:
" If you had a toss-up between the two plasma TVs and daytime usage in a very bright room was one of the main considerations, this difference would tip us in favor of the Samsung."
That being said, both of these sets have possible issues. Without going into detail in this, one can look at www.avsforum.com, http://www.avforums.com/forums/tvs/ (a UK site but a lot of Panasonic ST50/GT/VT users.
One issue that may affect you, depending on your viewing habits, is image retention. This seems to vary from set to set but it definitely appears that the ST50 is more prone to it than the Samsung, both from a CNET article and also in a review of the E6500 in the UK at http://forums.hdtvtest.co.uk/. On the other hand, some Samsung owners have encountered louder than normal buzzing (all plasmas buzz but the Samsungs seem to have a bigger problem with this).
Both sets, however, are deemed the best values in terms of performance and pricing available.
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Aug 4th, 2012 10:05 PM #8
Thanks guys , your input helps so much. Image retention is not too big of an issue since it is not permanent. The guy at best buy said their PSP covers it and that's something I plan on getting anyways.
I think I'm gonna go ahead and purchase the ST50, from what literally EVERYONE says it is the best TV for that price.
As for gaming, I just played modern warfare 3 on this insignia that my condo has, and literally went ape **** !
I'm talking 35+ rounds everytime. I had a Sony EX500 and definitely felt the difference. Not sure the actual measurements of the input lag but this insignia felt like it had abosolutely zero (which I know it probably isn't ). So I'm just gonna get a nice big computer monitor or something very similar to this insignia to run call of duty and play the rest of my games and blu-rays on the ST50
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Aug 4th, 2012 10:53 PM #9
I purchased the ST50 in May right when it came out, its an amazing TV for the price. Everything about it is perfect imo. Well, except for the media streaming, but I got a WDTV live for that anyways.
I'd suggest doing D-Nice's panel prep and use his settings for it. Its pretty much a free way to do a calibration for it: http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showth...6#.UB3ak6OXPzg
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Aug 5th, 2012 12:52 AM #10
You might want to hold off getting it until after the Olympics....
I get the feeling that Panasonic and the big box stores had an agreement to lock up stock for them for the normally high volume of sales prior and during major sporting events. Why do I think so? Well, I ordered one from a small local TV store that I've always purchased my TVs from (my family has dealt with them since the 70's!) and they couldn't get delivery until after the Olympics. Then I noticed that Memory Express finally started to carry the new line of Panasonic TV this week (months after they have been available at all of the big box stores). I also noticed that they have the cheapest prices around for many of the models that they carry...
Coincidence? Maybe.
But having worked in electronics retail for over 12 years (most of them in management) in my previous life, I can easily see something like this happening.
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Aug 5th, 2012 09:53 AM #11
If you do not think that image retention or possible burn-in will be an issue for you, that is perfectly reasonable on your part and I understand that. However, as regards Best Buy in Canada's PSP offering coverage for this, be it burn-in or image retention that is not the case and this clearly was a salesman doing all he can to try and clinch a sale. The only coverage I have ever heard of in North America which covers burn-in or image retention (short-term image retention is to be expected but when it comes to mid-long term image retention) is Best Buy's Black Tie coverage which is not available in Canada. Here are the terms in Canada:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/help/bes...ns/hc8150.aspx
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Aug 5th, 2012 11:56 AM #12
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Aug 5th, 2012 06:48 PM #14
Having previously worked at both a best buy and future shop, I can say that a lot of the times the sales people will jut say that it is covered and hopefully the customer will not experience the issue. Therefore it definitely sounds like a good plan to get it in writing and signed by the sales manager. I doubt my own stores will try that though but it's better safe than sorry.
Cool thing is , I pretty much know how to get free warranty or pretty close to it from them. future shop is more prone to lower prices than best buy.
I'm thinking their PSP is roughly 250 for 3 years... So I plan on getting them to drop the price of the tv by 200. Just have to find the right person. Or maybe even get one of my buddies who still work there to do a staff discount. Which is cost plus 5 percent
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Aug 5th, 2012 10:00 PM #15
I work at BB and the staff price for it was $1148.13 pre-tax. Though, that was back in May so it may have dropped slightly since then. Since the markup is a little over $200 so if you push hard enough I could imagine them dropping the TV by $150-200.
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