parallel health care in canada ? support or no.

[keki]

Hi! I am currently doing a research on whether or not Canada should have a parallel health care system (i.e. Public and Private Health care) and I would like to hear your opinions.

Thank You in advance!

[CheapScotsman]

For emergency services a public/private system is irrelevant. Both would do the job asap

For elective services a private system is already available. Fly/Drive a few hours south into the States and have whatever you can afford.

[grant]

I only want the healthcare that professional athletes, WCB recipients, insurance claimants, and our elected officials receive. I.e., the right to pay for faster service than the poor peons on the street.

[M@rk]

I support a parallel system, but only if it doesn't infringe upon the existing level of care provided to everyone else. This is tricky though, because we have a shortage of doctors and any parallel system is sure to compromise the care of people who can't afford to pay.

[corrupt123]

I support a parallel system, but only if it doesn't infringe upon the existing level of care provided to everyone else. This is tricky though, because we have a shortage of doctors and any parallel system is sure to compromise the care of people who can't afford to pay.

Agreed. I dont want to give up public healthcare by any means, but I'm not totally opposed to private healthcare for those who wish to pay for different [better] service. We already do this with education pretty much.

The problem is that the public sector would likely become more and more whithered. The private sector would have money, and doctors would want to work there. Eventually the public sector would probably fade right out... U.S.A.

[aquariaguy]

Hi! I am currently doing a research on whether or not Canada should have a parallel health care system (i.e. Public and Private Health care) and I would like to hear your opinions.

Thank You in advance!

No they shouldn't. It's more expensive.

Live in the US for a year and you'll notice things very fast how our system is far superior.

[CheapScotsman]

No they shouldn't. It's more expensive.

Live in the US for a year and you'll notice things very fast how our system is far superior.

Depends which "system" you are part of .. don't forget, he is asking if we support a "private" system

I worked for a company in Seattle for a few years which had a health care system ... Almost every doctor and hospital in the entire greater Seattle was part of the program. I phoned made an appointment and got in usually in less than 3 day ... including specialists. Took our daughter to emerg one night and there were no delays. No billing hassles, just show them the card and its taken care of.

[gnunn]

The only concern I have with a truly private parallel system is that it could impact the delivery of services in the public system as specialists and doctors move to the presumably more profitable parallel system. On the other hand I'm fine with the private delivery of services if paid for by the government as part of the public system.

BTW, there already is at least one parallel system in Canada. Military members are not covered by public health care and use their own system of military hospitals and care.

[Steeve Urkel]

Hi! I am currently doing a research on whether or not Canada should have a parallel health care system (i.e. Public and Private Health care) and I would like to hear your opinions.

Thank You in advance!

Hi,
we already have private healthcare in Canada that is subsidized by the government.
I know the doctor that made the plan so that an American health management company could operate in Canada.
Now this US company, they run dialysis centres and they also tell the people that go there that they can get "free healthcare at any of the facilities owned by Fresenius".
So, too bad for all the other people that use the same services here and want to go somewhere else, they will have to pay.

And no, this is not new, The government just did not publicize this as it makes them look bad.

There is plenty of info about this company and their operation online if you look.

[Steeve Urkel]

No they shouldn't. It's more expensive.

Live in the US for a year and you'll notice things very fast how our system is far superior.

I find even poor people in the US get better care than in Canada.

And one other thing I like better about the US system is they are actually accountable and they follow the health and safety regulations more closely.

At the doctor's office that I go to that is in a hospital I always see the nurses and employees not following the safety regulations, stuff like not using gloves to take blood, dropping stuff on the floor and using it again like bandaids ect, not cleaning the bands where they put them around your arm to take blood.

Before they would use fabric bands and never wash them in all the hospital depts.
I complained several times and actually threatened legal action and now they use disposable plastic items

[hi-tech]

I find even poor people in the US get better care than in Canada.

And one other thing I like better about the US system is they are actually accountable and they follow the health and safety regulations more closely.

At the doctor's office that I go to that is in a hospital I always see the nurses and employees not following the safety regulations, stuff like not using gloves to take blood, dropping stuff on the floor and using it again like bandaids ect, not cleaning the bands where they put them around your arm to take blood.

Before they would use fabric bands and never wash them in all the hospital depts.
I complained several times and actually threatened legal action and now they use disposable plastic items

I was born and raised in the U.S for most of my life, I assure you, the health care there is second rate, unless you are willing to pay $200,000 for a foot specialist. The waiting list for specialists are insane, the one's which are really expensive and really in demand have 1-2 year wait lists. Community hospitals are just absurd, some of the worst doctors are placed there, the one's which barely get into med school, and the one's which barely pass. I remember one of them almost ruined my sisters eyes by prescribing her with completely ridiculous lenses.

[bokep]

I was born and raised in the U.S for most of my life, I assure you, the health care there is second rate, unless you are willing to pay $200,000 for a foot specialist. The waiting list for specialists are insane, the one's which are really expensive and really in demand have 1-2 year wait lists. Community hospitals are just absurd, some of the worst doctors are placed there, the one's which barely get into med school, and the one's which barely pass. I remember one of them almost ruined my sisters eyes by prescribing her with completely ridiculous lenses.

+1
also lived in the states. my family was in bad financial situation at one point and couldn't afford decent health care for 2 years and we relied on a community hospital. boy you do not want to be in one of those places.

[batman321123]

+1
also lived in the states. my family was in bad financial situation at one point and couldn't afford decent health care for 2 years and we relied on a community hospital. boy you do not want to be in one of those places.

And that's what scares me about a parallel healthcare system. A private system will be more profitable and so the good doctors will move there, leaving the publicly funded healthcare system - that will be used by the poor - with crappy doctors.

Keep it as one system. Give doctors more money so the brain drain stops and we can start having shorter wait times.

[aquariaguy]

Over 35 million people in the US don't have health insurance coverage. NO coverage. IF you're poor, you're on MedicAid, sucks. If you're old and you'll be on MediCare which sucks too. IF you're middle-class, you probaly are one of the 35 million people with no coverage because its not affordable. A ton of students in my class have no coverage, because they are not covered by their parents anymore, and can't afford the $200 a month premium to get a decent cover.

Ah...the poor people in US are getting reamed. They are on MedicAid. First, it's a ***** to a doctor. Certain professions don't take MedicAid because, well they dont' want those kinds of people coming in. Secondly, it's so hard to get a referall to a specialist. Third, if you need drops, for say, glaucoma, you won't be able to get it because they won't cover it!

The people you've probaly "spoken" too are the ones who work with a big firm and have good insurance coverage. Well that firm is paying up their ass for that too. Probaly $250 a month per person for good coverage to see ANY doctor in your area. A lot of the insurance companies down here suck. Even if you pay $100 a month, you will not have a choice on what doctor you want to go too, you will have to jump through hoops to get referred, and you will still have to pay a deductible to get your medication.

I don't know about more accountable, but the only reason I see them being following more closely is because you will get sued left, right, up, and down in the ass for the slightest mistake, like coming to close to a patient.

Where have you been in the US and lived before? Was this from word of mouth?

I'm in Philadelphia and in a teaching clinic, and oh boy, the only people that come in, are the ones who are covered by the government's crappy MedicAid program. Let's just say, they need drops for ocular problems, they can't even afford it! The got no choice but to go blind. Sad but true. What can you do but tell the patient they need these drops or else...?

Go ask med. students why they would move to the US to practice? Because you get paid MORE. Ask them why WOULDN'T they move down there? Because malpractice insurance eats them alive. IF you're a surgeon, your malpractice insurance is INSANE!! It's like 33% of your income. How high you ask? An OBGYN insurance costs them $209,000 USD!! Just hope Canada pays doctors more!! They deserve it!

Thankfully BlueCross in Canada covers me and I'm only paying couple hundred dollars. But thats because if something happens to me, BlueCross will go bitching to OHIP and OHIP will have to cover a certain %. Ahh...I love Canada.

I find even poor people in the US get better care than in Canada.

And one other thing I like better about the US system is they are actually accountable and they follow the health and safety regulations more closely.

At the doctor's office that I go to that is in a hospital I always see the nurses and employees not following the safety regulations, stuff like not using gloves to take blood, dropping stuff on the floor and using it again like bandaids ect, not cleaning the bands where they put them around your arm to take blood.

Before they would use fabric bands and never wash them in all the hospital depts.
I complained several times and actually threatened legal action and now they use disposable plastic items

[aquariaguy]

Depends which "system" you are part of .. don't forget, he is asking if we support a "private" system

I worked for a company in Seattle for a few years which had a health care system ... Almost every doctor and hospital in the entire greater Seattle was part of the program. I phoned made an appointment and got in usually in less than 3 day ... including specialists. Took our daughter to emerg one night and there were no delays. No billing hassles, just show them the card and its taken care of.

Was this a big corporation? Yea, if you PAY dearly for it, you will get good coverage. Majority of people have this? Nope. Do you know what insurance company you were covered by?