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[Patagonia] Patagonia Down Sweater Jacket (Blue/Green Colours Only) - $188

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Sinasta wrote:
Feb 12th, 2019 2:02 am
Its the nature of having a thinner face fabric and having more feathers leak. Its the name of the game. Theres also a thing in customer service where they just admit fault to annoying customers to get them off their back.

Same issue with people who buy a CG parka and complain their arms are cold in -20 when all they're wearing is a t-shirt underneath. CG parkas even with thicker face fabric also leak a little.
I was not annoying. I sent in my jacket after taking the photo and filling out the form as per instructions and they told me in the first reply email that it's the jackets fault upon inspection and it was found to be a problem for a certain year (ofc the replacement they sent me from a newer year still leaks feathers daily) . Sorry, but the name of the game definitely isn't a $500 down jacket leaking feathers like crazy. If $150 jackets can get this right, so can Arc'. IMO people give many of their products a pass based on their earlier successful models.Happens with many premium brands. Meanwhile, over the years Arc's business realities and corporate visions change and most importantly, so do their asian manufacturing plants. You might be onto something with the thinner face fabric thing though. I would add to that the 850 fill down may be too dense for this form factor and face fabric too thin keep it inside. In any case, I'm not paying for a premium brand to later be trying to figure out where they went terribly wrong on their product design or manufacturing. Anyways, why do you think there's huge trail of complaints from Arc fanboys on their site regarding this exact problem about the Cerium? Why do you think that it's the only insulated jacket on their site still widely available in all sizes?
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bombdiggity wrote:
Feb 12th, 2019 10:37 am
It's a commonly used term for thin material down jackets that look puffy. It's been used since like the 80s and throughout the 90s.
I did a cursory search of the term on several outdoor/gear websites and have not found anyone using the term. If it is such a common term, then why does no one use it but on RFD? Surely a article written somewhere would use such a term in their writing. Proper term is insulator, mid layer or puffy. Not puffer.

Puffer sounds like a job on a set of a porno.
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Sinasta wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 3:13 am
I did a cursory search of the term on several outdoor/gear websites and have not found anyone using the term. If it is such a common term, then why does no one use it but on RFD? Surely a article written somewhere would use such a term in their writing. Proper term is insulator, mid layer or puffy. Not puffer.

Puffer sounds like a job on a set of a porno.
I just did a one second search for you on google. Thousands of results. Also checked google images. Thousands of results. Is that common enough for you?

What you deem "proper" term is irrelevant, companies and people have been using "puffer" to refer to exactly the jackets described for 40 or more years and it's not RFD exclusive.
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bombdiggity wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 8:33 am
I just did a one second search for you on google. Thousands of results. Also checked google images. Thousands of results. Is that common enough for you?

What you deem "proper" term is irrelevant, companies and people have been using "puffer" to refer to exactly the jackets described for 40 or more years and it's not RFD exclusive.
How is puffer NOT a common term? I put the words "puffer jacket" into google and the first results are Aritzia, Urban Outfitters, Zara, Free People, Uniqlo, Amazon, Saks 5th Ave, Sporting Life, H&M. This is only the first page. Seems like a common enough term to me?

Edit: REI: https://www.rei.com/search?q=puffer
Backcountry.com: https://www.backcountry.com/Store/catal ... u&q=puffer
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alvin545 wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 9:21 am
How is puffer NOT a common term? I put the words "puffer jacket" into google and the first results are Aritzia, Urban Outfitters, Zara, Free People, Uniqlo, Amazon, Saks 5th Ave, Sporting Life, H&M. This is only the first page. Seems like a common enough term to me?

Edit: REI: https://www.rei.com/search?q=puffer
Backcountry.com: https://www.backcountry.com/Store/catal ... u&q=puffer
I am flabbergasted that not only does he claim he's never been exposed to this term by anybody in his life or claim he's never seen an item for sale with that label, especially being outdoorsy enough to frequent outdoor forums, but that he didn't even google what is a common term and then continued to argue that it wasn't common and only used on RFD.

On the google results page under "people also ask", "what does puffer jacket mean?", it says
Puffer jackets, also called quilted jackets, have a signature quilted design with sections that are "puffy" between the stitching. They are filled with down insulation or synthetic fibers, both of which can provide a high level of warmth depending on how well they are made and the quality of the synthetic fibers.
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bombdiggity wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 8:33 am
I just did a one second search for you on google. Thousands of results. Also checked google images. Thousands of results. Is that common enough for you?

What you deem "proper" term is irrelevant, companies and people have been using "puffer" to refer to exactly the jackets described for 40 or more years and it's not RFD exclusive.
Puffer jacket is common term. Not sure why they're even arguing it.


How do people find the fit of this jacket?
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alvin545 wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 9:21 am
How is puffer NOT a common term? I put the words "puffer jacket" into google and the first results are Aritzia, Urban Outfitters, Zara, Free People, Uniqlo, Amazon, Saks 5th Ave, Sporting Life, H&M. This is only the first page. Seems like a common enough term to me?

Edit: REI: https://www.rei.com/search?q=puffer
Backcountry.com: https://www.backcountry.com/Store/catal ... u&q=puffer
You pretty much just helped my case. Your google search reveals all those first page arent even outdoor brands, but are street brands. Your REI search pulls up insulated jackets but nowhere in the description says puffer. Backcountry 90% of them arent even puffy jackets.

Again show me one article/review from a outdoor website/blog that calls them a puffer.
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bombdiggity wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 9:31 am
I am flabbergasted that not only does he claim he's never been exposed to this term by anybody in his life or claim he's never seen an item for sale with that label, especially being outdoorsy enough to frequent outdoor forums, but that he didn't even google what is a common term and then continued to argue that it wasn't common and only used on RFD.

On the google results page under "people also ask", "what does puffer jacket mean?", it says
Yeah soo common that people actually have to google what it means...

Safe to say puffer is used by city slickers in the GTA that has never stepped off a groomed trail.
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Sinasta wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 9:40 am
Yeah soo common that people actually have to google what it means...

Safe to say puffer is used by city slickers in the GTA that has never stepped off a groomed trail.
First of all, you argued that it wasn't a common term to describe the type of jacket I described and it was only a term used on RFD. You then arbitrarily decided to apply a different argument by moving the goal post to narrowly mean only what you decided it should apply to.

You have been shown that the term is commonly used and you have been shown it is exactly what I said the term applied to. Now your new argument that it's not common because one troll (you) didn't know what it means without googling it is ridiculous. The fact that google brought up results from so many different sources and companies is what proves that it's common and not rare, much less exclusive to RFD.

You were and are wrong plain and simple even if you won't admit it.
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I have the hooded down sweater jacket since last year. Love it is super light and it keeps me warm all the way down to -10C. Lower than that will have to layer or I swap to the Windsweep down hoody which is also an excellent jacket.

I do notice the occassional feather which is probably the norm considering the construction of this jacket.
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bombdiggity wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 9:46 am
First of all, you argued that it wasn't a common term to describe the type of jacket I described and it was only a term used on RFD. You then arbitrarily decided to apply a different argument by moving the goal post to narrowly mean only what you decided it should apply to.

You have been shown that the term is commonly used and you have been shown it is exactly what I said the term applied to. Now your new argument that it's not common because one troll (you) didn't know what it means without googling it is ridiculous. The fact that google brought up results from so many different sources and companies is what proves that it's common and not rare, much less exclusive to RFD.

You were and are wrong plain and simple even if you won't admit it.
Ok well you can keep sounding like a yuppie when you're visiting MEC asking for a puffer.
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Sinasta wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 9:38 am
You pretty much just helped my case. Your google search reveals all those first page arent even outdoor brands, but are street brands. Your REI search pulls up insulated jackets but nowhere in the description says puffer. Backcountry 90% of them arent even puffy jackets.

Again show me one article/review from a outdoor website/blog that calls them a puffer.
Look here too: https://www.sportinglife.ca/en-CA/searc ... lang=en_CA

Notice something common across 99% of the results?
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Sinasta wrote:
Feb 13th, 2019 9:51 am
Ok well you can keep sounding like a yuppie when you're visiting MEC asking for a puffer.
Rather sound like a yuppie than stubborn and ignorant. You can keep your head in the sand if you want, but your mental gymnastics to keep denying facts won't change the fact that you were wrong. And I seriously doubt there's anybody else in North America who would be like "what's a puffer jacket?", especially if they sell jackets for a living. Only you.
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Magicwhistleca wrote:
Feb 12th, 2019 9:26 am
Yeah, the thing is typically before when customers would come in looking for product we had in the warehouse not priced yet we would go get it for them and just make note on the sheets.

For some reason, within the last like week, apparently warehouse management told us to not touch any skids not priced yet in the warehouse.

Annoying but I didn't know yet. Sorry you came out and couldn't get one.

It's a pretty high priority skid though so it should be priced and out soon I'll post here when it is and what colours.
Since you work at Patagonia, just curious what your thoughts are on the term "puffer".

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