Paying off a Recruiter

[Varos]

First off. I do not want to be lectured on the morals of the thing. I am simply asking a question. Give me your opinion/advice, but please don't be my mother.

I got through to the right person a company/institution A. My approach got me noticed and my pitch impressed them. I was recently contacted by this person and she said that she is really impressed and that she recomended that the recruiter the institution is using interview me. However, the experience factor has been revised. Instead of what they originally posted, they are now requiring twice as much.

My question now. Is it possible to try to pay off that recruiter to over look this lack of experience? Would you do it? If so, how would you go about bringing that up? I really want this job.

[synaptech]

I am sure they would take the money, but the company would soon fire your ***** for only being half qualified.

[ACC-Major]

sorry I don't think I understood your question 100%. But according to my understanding, you won't get fired unless you lied on your resume. Even if you don't qualify for the job but they still hired you. You have the right to sue them if you got fired because they just want to take your money for the recuiter and fire you on the spot providing the reason that your experiences is not up to bar.

They can reject your application but not fire you after they hired you without a valid reason. Of coruse, they can fire anyone in the world, it's just that the company is required to pay severances.

[Sylvestre]

Your question is confusing. Reword it.

To answer, if a person at the company instructed a recruiter to interview you, and also mentioned that you were a good candidate, why would you care what the job requirements were? If the recruiter isn't willing to look at you despite being instructed to, the recruiter will lose out.

I would avoid the "pay-off" stuff completely. You want the job because of your ability, nothing else. It's up to you to make up for the lack of experience. Keep in mind that most companies "requirements" are more a wish-list, not a cut-off, and they absolutely consider ppl with less than all requirements.

[curtis]

Well, if I had guts like that, I'd screw the job and go rob a bank.

First off. I do not want to be lectured on the morals of the thing. I am simply asking a question. Give me your opinion/advice, but please don't be my mother.

I got through to the right person a company/institution A. My approach got me noticed and my pitch impressed them. I was recently contacted by this person and she said that she is really impressed and that she recomended that the recruiter the institution is using interview me. However, the experience factor has been revised. Instead of what they originally posted, they are now requiring twice as much.

My question now. Is it possible to try to pay off that recruiter to over look this lack of experience? Would you do it? If so, how would you go about bringing that up? I really want this job.

[mapleflag]

Your question is confusing. Reword it.

To answer, if a person at the company instructed a recruiter to interview you, and also mentioned that you were a good candidate, why would you care what the job requirements were? If the recruiter isn't willing to look at you despite being instructed to, the recruiter will lose out.

I would avoid the "pay-off" stuff completely. You want the job because of your ability, nothing else. It's up to you to make up for the lack of experience. Keep in mind that most companies "requirements" are more a wish-list, not a cut-off, and they absolutely consider ppl with less than all requirements.

I completely agree. Not being your parent, but instead of bribing the recruiter, you should send a follow up/thank you note to the person you contacted, stating that you're very interested in working for the company, and that you're looking forward to being interviewed by their recruiter. Good luck!

[squall458]

Well, if I had guts like that, I'd screw the job and go rob a bank.

+1 Are you working in a shaddy business? What would the recruiter think of you when he/she knows that you pay people off to get your way...You might not actually get the job because of that. If you got that far, doubling the required experience won't matter. Argue your wait out, say something like though I only have half the number of years required, I have learned twice the amount the other candidates have or something.

[Varos]

Thanks for your responses. The fact that they doubled their experience requirement scared me, especially knowing that i'll be interviewed by a recruiter.

Anyway, I sent the person that recomended me a hand written note today. I thanked them and re-iterated my enthusiasm for the position. Trouble is, she is leaving on mat leave soon and the final decision is NOT up to her.

[wasserkool]

Thanks for your responses. The fact that they doubled their experience requirement scared me, especially knowing that i'll be interviewed by a recruiter.

Anyway, I sent the person that recomended me a hand written note today. I thanked them and re-iterated my enthusiasm for the position. Trouble is, she is leaving on mat leave soon and the final decision is NOT up to her.

what country are you from? Thinking of bribing a recruiter to get you the job? I think thats the first time i heard it in Canada. If you are good enough, it doesn't matter what the requirement is, they will still hire you. If you are weak and have to resort to such dispicable tactics, i hope both you and the recruiter gets fired.

[wasserkool]

Couldn't resist. Had to reply.


I am a George Brown College graduate. I graduated with a 3 year Business Administration - Marketing diploma. I was in a similar boat where panic was starting to set in as graduation neared. Employers weren't calling back. I was angry at the school for having such low admission requirements. Many a time I wondered how some of my peers finished high school.

Anyhow, I transferred my credits to Ryerson University. At the same time, I realized that a diploma or degree will not get me a job by itself. I started to sweet talk some of my college profs. I took them out for coffee, lunch. I talked about their families, their interests, and their lives outside of work. Soon enough they began asking me what my plans were, if I had a job lined up, etc. One prof said that his friend owned a manufacturing company and that he though would really be impressed by me. The other prof set up a meeting with a friend of his that works at an advertising agency. I went for lunch with them and was invited to be an intern at their agency. I accepted. I worked during the day, and attended courses at Ryerson at night. Although the student body was generally more competent at the university, the majority was far less impressive than the bright kids at GBC. While working as an intern, I made friends with the key people at the company. Same sort of story - ***** kissing, going for lunches, etc. One of the VPs told me that although his department wasn't hiring - he had a friend at another agency that was. I applied for a job. Went for the interview, and impressed the pants off them. They hired me, set me up with a sweet office, and gave me fairly decent pay. Seven months into the job - I realize that I have done my best learning here. I am soon to be promoted to account manager and head hunters are calling me. I discontinued my courses at Ryerson because I figure I have learned all there was to learn about marketing in school.

Those that keep insisting that college grads are good only for the "executional" and "tasks" need to get off their high horses. Isn't that a prime example of linear thinking? You as university grads, should be seeing the bigger picture. You should realize that there are a whole lot of very smart college kids who ended up there for various reasons.

So yeah.. ***** kissing all way eh? Your college diploma can only get you that far. Try doing that in a fortune 100 company. Nevertheless, your lack of qualifications and integrity will never land you a position in those companies either. Go ahead and ***** kiss the rest of your life, bribe people, your life will go far.

[dre145]

So yeah.. ***** kissing all way eh? Your college diploma can only get you that far. Try doing that in a fortune 100 company. Nevertheless, your lack of qualifications and integrity will never land you a position in those companies either. Go ahead and ***** kiss the rest of your life, bribe people, your life will go far.

lol that quote is funny...
im sure u left ryerson because u "learned" all u needed to know, what was ur GPA?? lol
even tho marketing at rye is pretty easy but those courses u took is nothing without a degree

[Pete Jones]

Any recruiter worth the powder to blow them up would take your bribe and tell you exactly where to stick it.

Why?

Because their job is to find the _best_ candidates for the position. The decision makers will ultimately know you lack the experience they seek. If you somehow manage to slip through and they hire you, you'll be sacked in short order and that recruiter will have lost a client.

--Pete

[wasserkool]

Any recruiter worth the powder to blow them up would take your bribe and tell you exactly where to stick it.

Why?

Because their job is to find the _best_ candidates for the position. The decision makers will ultimately know you lack the experience they seek. If you somehow manage to slip through and they hire you, you'll be sacked in short order and that recruiter will have lost a client.

--Pete

The best candidate for the job. Not a lame college kid here who is using such tactics to get himself ahead of others. I can't image corporate recruiters from fortune 100 all accepting bribes to hire a candidate. Try that with google or P&G recruiters..

[BlueMax]

Butt-kissing and schmoozing are very different from BRIBING.

[wasserkool]

Butt-kissing and schmoozing are very different from BRIBING.

EXACTLY..can you go up to your boss and say "hey, i'll give you my 5 months of salary so you can promote me to XYZ position". Try doing that and tell me the effect.

Sure....we ***** kiss everyday at work, or so we called by telling our boss what we accomplished and how we solved a problem that brought beneficial change to the org. But if you do it EXCLUSIVELY without any grounds of credentials or contribution, you are simply doing it for the sake of doing it, like VAROS. Keep that up much longer and we'll see where you end up with.