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Phones unlocked for free in canada (enforced by the law?)

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The bill that you quoted in Wikipedia died when the election was called. Hyers then re-introduced bill under the current parliament session can be found as follows:

http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/BillDet ... l=41&Ses=1

Personally, I doubt that this bill (as a private member's bill from an opposition party) will go anywhere.

For those in Ontario, David Orazietti's "Wireless Phone, Smart Phone and Data Service Transparency Act, 2011" is much closer to reality than Hyer's bill.

http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_ ... illID=2538

It passed 2nd reading, but still there are no guarantees that it will become law - particularly when it's minority when the government can fall at any time (so will any outstanding bills). Right now everyone's focus is on the spring budget; everything else is secondary.
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I hate the mcguinty gov, but I love that bill. Sure hope it passes. Rogers must hate it, but I guess that's why they tried to get out in front of the new laws so it looks like they actually made these decisions. The only other clause I'd like added to these laws is the abolition of 3 year contract. Surely some politician must have the common sense and courage to wonder why they only exist in Canada.
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ceredon wrote:
Mar 17th, 2012 2:04 pm
the abolition of 3 year contract. Surely some politician must have the common sense and courage to wonder why they only exist in Canada.

Would a two year contract be any better? That is what AT&T offers in the US
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Would a two year contract be any better? That is what AT&T offers in the US
Yes. 1/3 better.
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Today the government tabled the "No More Cell Shock" legislation. While it covers most of what Orazietti had proposed in his original bill, one major piece was missing - the mandatory handset unlocking provision (after completion of the contract or purchase of a device at full price).

Please write to your local MPP, McGuinty and Margarett Best (Minister of Consumer Services) to put the unlocking provision back in the bill.
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Has this ever been challenged in the courts (like under the Sale of Goods or Trade Descriptions Act)? I am pretty sure these unlocking charges would not stand up in court... Once they lost one case they wouldn't even bother fighting them...
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michty6 wrote:
May 17th, 2012 9:19 pm
Has this ever been challenged in the courts (like under the Sale of Goods or Trade Descriptions Act)? I am pretty sure these unlocking charges would not stand up in court... Once they lost one case they wouldn't even bother fighting them...
i am looking to get a factory unlock for three iphone 3g phones and came across this thread. has anyone pushed this issue in small claims? namely, that once the term ends, it is an implied term of the contract that the phones would be unlocked at no additional cost when said term ends?
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Takes effect December 2nd 2013

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-271.htm

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/info_sht/t15.htm

Do you pay a bill after you use your wireless service? If so, you use postpaid services, and you have the right
to cancel your contract at no cost after a maximum of two years
to cancel your contract and return your phone at no cost, within 15 days and specific usage limits, if you are unhappy with your service
to have your phone unlocked after 90 days, or immediately if you paid in full for your phone
to have your service suspended at no cost if your phone is lost or stolen
to receive a Critical Information Summary, which explains your contract in under two pages
to receive a notification when you are roaming in a different country, telling you what the rates are for voice services, text messages, and data usage
to limit your data overage charges to $50 a month and your data roaming charges to $100 a month
to pay no extra charges for a service described as “unlimited”
to refuse a change to the key terms and conditions of your contract, including the services in your contract, the price for those services, and the duration of your contract
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ansarm wrote:
Oct 18th, 2013 12:18 am
Takes effect December 2nd 2013

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-271.htm

http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/info_sht/t15.htm

Do you pay a bill after you use your wireless service? If so, you use postpaid services, and you have the right
to cancel your contract at no cost after a maximum of two years
to cancel your contract and return your phone at no cost, within 15 days and specific usage limits, if you are unhappy with your service
to have your phone unlocked after 90 days, or immediately if you paid in full for your phone
to have your service suspended at no cost if your phone is lost or stolen
to receive a Critical Information Summary, which explains your contract in under two pages
to receive a notification when you are roaming in a different country, telling you what the rates are for voice services, text messages, and data usage
to limit your data overage charges to $50 a month and your data roaming charges to $100 a month
to pay no extra charges for a service described as “unlimited”
to refuse a change to the key terms and conditions of your contract, including the services in your contract, the price for those services, and the duration of your contract
It doesn't say anything about getting it unlocked for free though?
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correct.
Mike71 wrote:
Oct 18th, 2013 12:31 am
It doesn't say anything about getting it unlocked for free though?
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Carriers already charge $35-$50 to unlock the phones.
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techfox wrote:
Oct 18th, 2013 1:02 am
Carriers already charge $35-$50 to unlock the phones.
Bell only recently dropped to $50 from $75. In all cases it simply now puts them inline with the new CRTC rules. I would have preferred that the new rules set an actual price instead of saying "reasonable". Something like $10 after 90 days and free out of contract would have been better.
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