I've driven all sorts of newer small cars as rentals, loaners, friends' cars, etc. Cobalt, Civic, Mini, Golf & Jetta, Mazda3, Impreza, Lancer, Sentra, and the list goes on... None can touch the Corolla in terms of sheer horribleness. Only thing that's as bad of a drive, off the top of my head, is the Smart Car. 2nd generation Escape is perhaps even worse but it's not in the same class. But those two (Escape and Corolla) definitely duke it out for the worst road vehicle made in the past decade. The 3rd gen/current Escape is of course so far improved (recalls notwithstanding, I just mean in driving) they might as well have called it something else, hopefully the new Corolla can do the same.
2013 Civic felt the same to me as the 2014 Corolla. They look very similar, and the interiors are nice - but really underpowered for driving on the highway. The Accord and Camry are much better driving cars, and the marginal cost increase over the Civic/Corolla is well worth it.
I just bought my 2013 Civic LX for around $21k. The day before I bought the Civic, I was offered $23.8k for the 2014 Corolla LE.
My insurance quote for the Civil is $32/month more than the Corolla - that is $1.9k over 5 years of ownership.
The 2014 Corolla LE is more fuel efficient than the 2014 Civic LX, by about 0.5L/100km (based on their respective websites). Assuming 5 years of ownership with an average driving of 24,000 km per year and gas at 1.3 $/L, the Corolla would save me an additional $0.8k in gas.
So the Civic is 2.8k cheaper than the Corolla, UP FRONT. However, after 5 years of ownership, depends on my driving and gas price, which is more likely to go up. The Corolla may turn out to be cheaper and it comes with a rearview camera, that the Civic lacks.
So if you are going to buy driving a lot and intending to own the car for 3 years or more, my recommendation for you is the 2014 Corolla LE. Don't buy the CE though because not only is it more expensive, but also slightly less fuel efficient than the 2013 Civic.
Even for the initial merge, according to the traffic act, "Freeway drivers should move over, if it is safe to do so, leaving room for merging vehicles." I never had to floor my Prius C even though it's probably slower than both the Corolla and the Civic.
Huh? From your numbers, the Civic is like 1s faster to 100km/h.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archanfel
In all seriousness I'd pick neither the Civic or the Corolla but given you have to choose one, if they were both 2013s? Definitely the Civic. But since the Corolla is redesigned for 2014, I have to reserve judgment until at least a few reputable reviews and probably a test drive of some sort.
In reality, after we remove all the personal feelings, the Corolla is a mediocre econo-box, but it's just fine for day to day commute. It runs, it stops, it scores ok on most crash tests. Is it a good car? Probably not, but it's not a bad car either or millions wouldn't have chosen it. It's a reliable appliance, nothing more, nothing less. It's not for everybody, but it's ok for a lot of people.
I agree with you though, Civic is better performance wise, although not by much.
I recently test drove both of these vehicles. I prefer the styling/looks of the Civic, but oddly the driving experience felt better in the Corolla. Not as much cabin noise, and the steering felt a little weird in the Civic.
Honestly both cars have already proven to be reliable and such. I would just test drive both, weigh your desires, and make a decision. Regardless of what different fanboys of each brand might say, what matters is that you're happy. You need to find the one that you like the best.
We just bought a 2014 Corolla S and it's a great car. My last Civic was a 2006 so I can't compare the two. But I find that the Corolla is aggressive looking and fun to drive. We wrapped it in a matte grey vinyl. It looks sharp.
Corollas are definitely not fun to drive... not even close lol. They're reliable and will probably last longer than any other car if you take care of it, but it's boring, definitely not aggressive looking, and lacks in features. I'd choose neither the Corolla or Civic, there are better cars. But if they were the only options, I'd go with the Civic.