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PLEASE sticky: How to bypass Bell hub and use your own Router?

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PLEASE sticky: How to bypass Bell hub and use your own Router?

I recently had tons of troubles setting up Bell with my own router and I failed miserably.

However, I was lucky enough to get a hold of someone very technical (THANK YOU Katie!)

Basically, in order to bypass Bell hub 1000/2000 you need to disable it and turn it into bridge mode; by doing the following:

NOTE: I had Internet ONLY

In order to do it:

-First disable the wireless and WPS
-You will need to push the brightness and reset button for 20 seconds (3rd button and the reset button).
-The Power will turn purple and you won't be able to access the web interface anymore.

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Again, this will disable everything and then you will have to setup PPOE in your own router. (YES you still need their hub for it to work)

Username is provided by bell http://support.bell.ca/Internet/Connect ... d-password

username: b1abcd12
password: whatever you set it to at mybell.ca
In case you screw up or cable doesn't work, you can enable it back by pressing reset + wps + password buttons at the same time for 20 seconds.
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Tried it myself again and added the fact that you will need to disable wireless and wps before starting if you didn't do that you will have to start over.

and

Power should turn purple and blink.

The rest stays the same.

PM or reply to the post for any questions you got.
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You don't need to to do this for HH2000 and other bell modems (only HH1000 maybe). It works right away (b1 PPPoE credentials in your own router) without any special config. However, it's a good practice to disable WiFi and uPNP, etc. in the modem if using it like this.

The only caveat here is the Older Sagem connection hub 2864 has poor performance above 15mbps in bridge mode. (You can see this by pinging the modem during a fast torrent)

Don't disable DHCP if you have FibeTV.
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There is no bridge mode in HH1000 or HH2000 modem. Bell requires a working PPPOE session to manage the modem for software updates and maintenance. The modem is designed that even when you intentionally put bogus credentials into the modem and use your own router to establish the PPPOE session - the modem will revert to the default PPPOE credentials after a predetermined interval (restoring Bell's ability to manage the modem).
There is nothing wrong with using your own router to establish the PPPOE session vs the Bell modem - and you can turn the wifi off on the Bell modem and use your own router for wireless connectivity.

If you have Fibe TV and a HH2000 modem - you have to have your proper Bell provided internet credentials datafilled in the modem for proper Fibe TV feature functionality (some of the Fibe TV features leverage the internet connection vs the TV connection).
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Yes there is. It's just hidden. And you cannot use your own router without it as it has a stp restriction.

I configured my own PPOE and it works fine. If you connect to it, it will do nothing until you establish a PPOE connection.
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I can confirm it's there as I have a bell tech do that for me. Both the tech support and the on site tech told me that's the bridge mode.
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I have FibeTV with zero rated internet and I use my own router with the Bell hub. The only issue (not that big a deal but still annoying) is that I cant stream certain channels on the Fibe mobile app because I am not on 'Home Wifi'. Any way to get around this?
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Nice, good find! Mustve been enabled as part of a recent firmware update on those boxes.
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This thread really should be stickied, imo. I'm pointing people to it when they can't figure out how to stick this junk into bridge mode.
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Im using Asus RT-AC3200 router and have it bypassed (not using bell hub at all). I have fiber optic and connected my Asus router right to the fiber optic box where bell hub was connected. Entered my bell user name and password on my Asus router and it has been working over 6 months now.
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Sodibinder wrote:
Sep 4th, 2016 9:41 pm
Im using Asus RT-AC3200 router and have it bypassed (not using bell hub at all). I have fiber optic and connected my Asus router right to the fiber optic box where bell hub was connected. Entered my bell user name and password on my Asus router and it has been working over 6 months now.
IDK there, I tried connecting it directly to the fiber optics box and nothing would come up until I called them up and told me that I still needed the stupid bell hub.
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DealCanuck wrote:
Sep 5th, 2016 5:21 pm
Sodibinder wrote:
Sep 4th, 2016 9:41 pm
Im using Asus RT-AC3200 router and have it bypassed (not using bell hub at all). I have fiber optic and connected my Asus router right to the fiber optic box where bell hub was connected. Entered my bell user name and password on my Asus router and it has been working over 6 months now.
IDK there, I tried connecting it directly to the fiber optics box and nothing would come up until I called them up and told me that I still needed the stupid bell hub.
Sorry forgot to mention about ISP port settings. I'm not sure type of router u using, but the one I have has settings for ISP profile.
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VLAN 35 is for Bell Internet services, while VLAN 36 is used by the Bell Home Hub for TV services. We are basically telling the router to communicate with Bell over VLAN 35 for Internet services. I hope this makes since.
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Sodibinder wrote:
Sep 5th, 2016 8:31 pm
DealCanuck wrote:
Sep 5th, 2016 5:21 pm
Sodibinder wrote:
Sep 4th, 2016 9:41 pm
Im using Asus RT-AC3200 router and have it bypassed (not using bell hub at all). I have fiber optic and connected my Asus router right to the fiber optic box where bell hub was connected. Entered my bell user name and password on my Asus router and it has been working over 6 months now.
IDK there, I tried connecting it directly to the fiber optics box and nothing would come up until I called them up and told me that I still needed the stupid bell hub.
Sorry forgot to mention about ISP port settings. I'm not sure type of router u using, but the one I have has settings for ISP profile.
image.jpeg
VLAN 35 is for Bell Internet services, while VLAN 36 is used by the Bell Home Hub for TV services. We are basically telling the router to communicate with Bell over VLAN 35 for Internet services. I hope this makes since.
Well there is the problem, I didn't know I needed VLAN configuration for this.

Basically tell the WAN port that it's supposed to get tagged traffic from VLAN 35.

Gonna be trying this tonight.
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DealCanuck wrote:
Sep 6th, 2016 11:07 am
Sodibinder wrote:
Sep 5th, 2016 8:31 pm
DealCanuck wrote:
Sep 5th, 2016 5:21 pm


IDK there, I tried connecting it directly to the fiber optics box and nothing would come up until I called them up and told me that I still needed the stupid bell hub.
Sorry forgot to mention about ISP port settings. I'm not sure type of router u using, but the one I have has settings for ISP profile.
image.jpeg
VLAN 35 is for Bell Internet services, while VLAN 36 is used by the Bell Home Hub for TV services. We are basically telling the router to communicate with Bell over VLAN 35 for Internet services. I hope this makes since.
Well there is the problem, I didn't know I needed VLAN configuration for this.

Basically tell the WAN port that it's supposed to get tagged traffic from VLAN 35.

Gonna be trying this tonight.
Hey I hope it works out for you. I understand your pain been there while I was setting this up for myself. Sleepless nights. I'm also using the Linksys pap SIP for freephoneline and after setting up the router frinking Linksys PAP stop communicating. So fix one thing another issue rises.
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DealCanuck wrote:
Sep 6th, 2016 11:07 am
Sodibinder wrote:
Sep 5th, 2016 8:31 pm
DealCanuck wrote:
Sep 5th, 2016 5:21 pm


IDK there, I tried connecting it directly to the fiber optics box and nothing would come up until I called them up and told me that I still needed the stupid bell hub.
Sorry forgot to mention about ISP port settings. I'm not sure type of router u using, but the one I have has settings for ISP profile.
image.jpeg
VLAN 35 is for Bell Internet services, while VLAN 36 is used by the Bell Home Hub for TV services. We are basically telling the router to communicate with Bell over VLAN 35 for Internet services. I hope this makes since.
Well there is the problem, I didn't know I needed VLAN configuration for this.

Basically tell the WAN port that it's supposed to get tagged traffic from VLAN 35.

Gonna be trying this tonight.
Hey I hope it works out for you. I understand your pain been there while I was setting this up for myself. Sleepless nights. I'm also using the Linksys pap SIP for freephoneline and after setting up the router frinking Linksys PAP stop communicating. So fix one thing another issue rises.
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