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Drew87 wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 12:25 pm
If people really think that the lack of profanity is an issue that's sad - There are thousands of words in the English language, If you can't properly express your view or message without a profanity maybe you have a bigger problem then you think.....

I was simply using that example to show contrast for why I suppose the new policy against politics.

This thread is about the new politics policy - not language/non-porn sexuality.

As I said it was just an example to show contrast and put my support of the politics policy into context and I won't allow myself to be baited with condescending posts or leading questions to derail this thread from it's intended discussion.
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NG wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 11:52 am
Podeua haven't you figured out I couldn't care less what you think?

If oranr is wondering your questions I'll be happy to answer but I'll be damned if I'll be questioned by the likes of you.
Well, you made the following comment ..." I've been open in my dissent for the banning on profanity/non-porn sexuality on this site because the RFD/YPG policy exists as an anomaly on the internet compared to other successful sites "

Insinuating that because RFD bans profanity and is strict in the sexual content it allows ( if any ), that RFD is somehow out of step - an " anomaly on the internet " to use your words - with other so-called " successful sites " on the internet.

So, I think it's a perfectly legitimate question to ask you to perhaps identity some examples of these so-called " successful sites " you were alluding to that owe - in part - some of their success to the fact they allow profanity and or allow greater degrees of sexual content.

So, if you want RFD to be more like other " successful sites " on the internet, I'm simply asking you ......like ' which sites ' ?
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Drew87 wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 12:25 pm
If people really think that the lack of profanity is an issue that's sad - There are thousands of words in the English language, If you can't properly express your view or message without a profanity maybe you have a bigger problem then you think.....

And seriously, this site is owned by YPC - they can run it as they see fit, one or two users complaining on here really doesn't matter ....I'm sure this site's traffic is still really high and I'm sure the majority that come here get what they need out of the site (FINDING DEALS IT'S MAIN PURPOSE)

I would tend to agree.

I kinda' like the fact that blatant profanity isn't allowed on RFD....but that's just me. :)
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poedua wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 1:25 pm
yada, yada, yada...

You're really desperate for someone to validate what you think and I suspect as a person.

You're not going to get it from me; I didn't even read your reply (just saw you quoted me).

Yes I think that little of you.

Go quote and question someone else to try to gain worth and validation for your views and as a person from someone else.
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poedua wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 1:27 pm
I would tend to agree.

I kinda' like the fact that blatant profanity isn't allowed on RFD....but that's just me. :)

Yeah - I like it to, I like the fact that politics is banned too. RFD is better without it. There's isn't a logical need for either.
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Certainly RFD started as a deals site and is primarily devoted to that persuit - but it has grown beyond that. The parenting, pets and gardening sections are examples of that growth. Off Topic is the place to go when your message does not fit elsewhere - a vague definition which offers flexibility.

It seems that the flexibility was too much for a handful of users to respect resulting in the unfortunate need for clearer rules.

How annoying.

I have enjoyed many conversations there and been most irritated when the thread was shut down due to users abusing other users. It got to the point where I found myself having to weigh the pros and cons of the "report button" as I did not want to loose the thread entirely.

Very annoying.

And now I am not overly clear on what constitutes ok and what is not. One of my favorite topics for exploration is human attitudes. Homosexuality it an interesting topic and we have discussed nature/nurture extensively. Now on this topic it in almost impossible to avoid Religion and it's impact on beliefs. I like to explore this from a Theological/Historical perspective utilizing the published works of scholars - not passion or simple opinion.

Can one talk about the history of religion as it pertains to a non-religious topic? Or would this result to a quick trip to purgatory?
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ishfish wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 1:44 pm
Can one talk about the history of religion as it pertains to a non-religious topic? Or would this result to a quick trip to purgatory?

I suppose you could run any potential thread topic ( that may have some religious references / content ) by a mod or even oranr in advance to see if it might be an issue.
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ishfish wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 1:44 pm
Certainly RFD started as a deals site and is primarily devoted to that persuit - but it has grown beyond that. The parenting, pets and gardening sections are examples of that growth. Off Topic is the place to go when your message does not fit elsewhere - a vague definition which offers flexibility.

It seems that the flexibility was too much for a handful of users to respect resulting in the unfortunate need for clearer rules.

How annoying.

I have enjoyed many conversations there and been most irritated when the thread was shut down due to users abusing other users. It got to the point where I found myself having to weigh the pros and cons of the "report button" as I did not want to loose the thread entirely.

Very annoying.

And now I am not overly clear on what constitutes ok and what is not. One of my favorite topics for exploration is human attitudes. Homosexuality it an interesting topic and we have discussed nature/nurture extensively. Now on this topic it in almost impossible to avoid Religion and it's impact on beliefs. I like to explore this from a Theological/Historical perspective utilizing the published works of scholars - not passion or simple opinion.

Can one talk about the history of religion as it pertains to a non-religious topic? Or would this result to a quick trip to purgatory?

The thing is tho as I've said - this site is primarily a deal site despite whatever its grown to, If the admins have said that religion/politics is not allowed then to me that's a simple answer.....I think it boils down to the fact they just because someone FEELS that they NEED to discuss something doesnt mean that RFD has to be the place to post or discuss it....There are other forums,groups off the net etc to discuss these things....If you have a question you can PM the mods nad they'll let you know if something is or isn't acceptable....

People say the mods don't reply quick enough to them but anytime I've ever PM'ed a mod I've gotten a quick and understandable reply....

Those that complain about the mods not replying quick enough are usually trolls so I would disregard them....

Don't talke anything I'm saying the right way - I understand you wanting to discuss certain topics because when it stays on track it can be quite interesting. As you said tho these topics are quickly derailed and for the mods it's easier to ban a whole topic and subject then go through dozens of threads to mod individual posts...

As for the record - in the Eaton centre thread in off topic there were quite of few posts last evening that had were flame baiting and trolling. Within 10 minutes of reporting them they were deleted...Sure it's was a popular topic last night but the mods were on topic of it.

And think about it, where are all the trolls now that use to visit off topic? were they all banned or did they all just disappear because they know that they can't get away with what they used to?

I'm just rambling now so I'll stop...
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Drew87 wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 1:35 pm
Yeah - I like it to, I like the fact that politics is banned too. RFD is better without it. There's isn't a logical need for either.

Well, to some extent, I regret the fact that politics is banned on this site - it does work on other sites.

That said, I undersand why it was done here on RFD and I support oranr's decision .....100%.

This is the second time such a ban has had to been put in place on RFD, and primarily for the same reason - an inability and or unwillingness by a number of members to obey forum rules.
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poedua wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 2:01 pm
Well, to some extent, I regret the fact that politics is banned on this site - it does work on other sites.

That said, I undersand why it was done here on RFD and I support oranr's decision .....100%.

This is the second time such a ban has had to been put in place on RFD, and primarily for the same reason - an inability and or unwillingness by a number of members to obey forum rules.

Yeah - I do agree with the fact that a few members caused this issue. In a way they've gotten what they want - they wanted to provoke and troll people and the mods had to take a drastic but necessary action to fix the problem....

I'm just wondering if all the "trolls" were permanently banned as well....That would send a stronger message then anything else they have done so far...
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Drew87 wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 2:18 pm
Yeah - I do agree with the fact that a few members caused this issue. In a way they've gotten what they want - they wanted to provoke and troll people and the mods had to take a drastic but necessary action to fix the problem....

I'm just wondering if all the "trolls" were permanently banned as well....That would send a stronger message then anything else they have done so far...

Of course they weren't, that would mean less people viewing ads and less potential revenue.
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Ojam wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 2:23 pm
Of course they weren't, that would mean less people viewing ads and less potential revenue.

LOL - I've stated that before in threads in RFD - just wanted to see if the mods would jump in and reply....I know Dearsummer wasn't banned as he's posting in the Eaton centre thread still....
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Drew87 wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 1:53 pm

Don't talke anything I'm saying the right way - I understand you wanting to discuss certain topics because when it stays on track it can be quite interesting. As you said tho these topics are quickly derailed and for the mods it's easier to ban a whole topic and subject then go through dozens of threads to mod individual posts...
I'm just rambling now so I'll stop...

Don't talke it the right way - too funny.

The moderators are definitely not the problem and I appreciate the dilemma of balancing when to let a thread continue as there is some good discussion being generated or to say "It is done."

I can't say I had thought of asking if a subtopic was ok as I do not want to pester them and it does not come up that frequently.

For now I think touching on a theological subdiscussion would be premature as it would too easily be a platform for acting out - emotions have been raised with the new rules and I do not want to contribute to anyone's headache.

Theology does not come up that often - but the last time it did I found myself gathering up my academic books and doing some quick studying only to discover upon my return that the thread had been closed. What a pain in the beep beep beep beep.
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ishfish wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 2:25 pm
Don't talke it the right way - too funny.

The moderators are definitely not the problem and I appreciate the dilemma of balancing when to let a thread continue as there is some good discussion being generated or to say "It is done."

I can't say I had thought of asking if a subtopic was ok as I do not want to pester them and it does not come up that frequently.

For now I think touching on a theological subdiscussion would be premature as it would too easily be a platform for acting out - emotions have been raised with the new rules and I do not want to contribute to anyone's headache.

Theology does not come up that often - but the last time it did I found myself gathering up my academic books and doing some quick studying only to discover upon my return that the thread had been closed. What a pain in the beep beep beep beep.

I meant the wrong way LOL!!!!!!!! I didn't want you to think that I was attacking you or anything when I was saying it's not a big deal if they banned politics etc...you know - my big speech before hand.... :|
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Drew87 wrote:
Jun 3rd, 2012 2:27 pm
I meant the wrong way LOL!!!!!!!! I didn't want you to think that I was attacking you or anything when I was saying it's not a big deal if they banned politics etc...you know - my big speech before hand.... :|

No, I though you had been enjoying the young and single life - and were just experiencing a resulting fatigue. :razz:

The perception of being attacked is an interesting theme in OT though. One of my first experiences in OT was an unfortunate one as there was an interpretion of attack - over time I observed the way some users interact and I came to realize that attacking and defending in some sort of Win or Loose battle was common place. It certainly makes everything so defensive and sometimes good conversations are impossible. On the other hand it is best not to take the dispositions of others for granted as I do not know them and what may be happening in their lives.

Greater clarity regarding peace and attack would have been useful though - a bomb symbol and a :) . Hopefully no longer needed.

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