Pollution might be Good

[Paksis]

Start polluting, burn coal and more trees. Pollution might be good for you.

The New Threat:Global Dimming

Global Warming, Global Cooling. Geez when will people learn to stop listening to the Scare Industry

[M@rk]

Scare Industry?

Ok.....

[bottomfeeder]

Guys - think about this

We had Ice Ages and then we had Hot Ages.
The period between Ice Ages is about 100,000

If we were in an Ice Age - how did we get out of it?
Getting out of an Ice Age means that there is global warming.

But ... how can we have global warming if there were no humans causing pollution?

... maybe it was Mammoth farts?

Or maybe there are natural cycles that we don't understand yet.

For this reason I really don't care about Global Warming.

.... and I am Canadian so Global Warming is good for us.
Time to buy land in northern Manitoba?

[pfdude]

Maybe the Earth's orbit around the Sun changes every 100,000 years or so due to unknown gravitational pulls.

[bottomfeeder]

I wonder if it is connected to the 200,000 year period of the rotation of the Galaxy.

[AmberB]

I saw a whole show about this a few weeks back. Essentially, particle polution in the atmosphere caused by fossil fuels etc block out some of the sunlight we get and so dims the planet causing things to cool down. HOWEVER, the greenhouse gases we emit do the opposite. They contribute to global warming. Right now thses pollutants are at a balance so the temperature changes aren't dramatic but if we take measures to eliminate one type of pollution without the other...the balance will shift and temperatures will swing. Big trouble......we need to reduce them in equal portions.....

[atforum]

yes it is good coz world will come to an end soon and we will all be sent to heaven

[Paksis]

Some will go to heaven, some not.

Warning: this might be considered a racist comment by some.

[Casanova]

time to revers all those california laws!

[Bullseye]

For this reason I really don't care about Global Warming.

.... and I am Canadian so Global Warming is good for us.
Time to buy land in northern Manitoba?

What a narrow minded comment. Not only are you implying that you don't give a damn about anyone else outside Canada, but you also fail to realize that global warming means more than longer summers for Canada.

This kind of stupidity is what prevents real change for the better, too many simpletons who think in black and white terms only.

[curtis]

Lol, reading Bottomfeeder's 12 year old replies is funny, but reading replies setting him straight are even funnier. (Not that I don't agree with you)

What a narrow minded comment. Not only are you implying that you don't give a damn about anyone else outside Canada, but you also fail to realize that global warming means more than longer summers for Canada.

This kind of stupidity is what prevents real change for the better, too many simpletons who think in black and white terms only.

[swiftfox]

Maybe the Earth's orbit around the Sun changes every 100,000 years or so due to unknown gravitational pulls.

Wikipedia something called the Milankovitch cycles. That might point you in the right direction.

You can have global warming without humans. Anthropogenic sources have made the global warming process happen a whole lot faster than normal. Or at least that's what about half of the scientific community think. The other half dismiss this.

Unfortunately the issue has become more political than scientific, so its quite difficult to find the facts with all of the surrounding rhetoric.

I took multiple university courses on global warming, and though I am firm in my belief that humans are causing serious problems wrt global warming/overall health of the planet, noone really knows the extent of our damage/what will actually happen.

I've heard a few people make an interesting point; science and scientific fact are based on performing multiple experiments to confirm a theory (and help dismiss all other factors that dissuade from the theory). Unfortunately, we only have one earth, and can't run multiple tests to see what happens when we mess things up on an earth wide scale. Post industrial revolution pollution is currently a worldwide experiment; half of the scientific world believes that we need not worry about the pollution. The other half says 'well, you could be right, and we could be fine. However, if you are wrong, we are buggered, and can't exactly start the experiment fresh (only one earth). Do you really want to take that chance?'

To me, it sure isn't a chance worth taking.

[WheatKing]

Wikipedia something called the Milankovitch cycles. That might point you in the right direction.

You can have global warming without humans. Anthropogenic sources have made the global warming process happen a whole lot faster than normal. Or at least that's what about half of the scientific community think. The other half dismiss this.

Unfortunately the issue has become more political than scientific, so its quite difficult to find the facts with all of the surrounding rhetoric.

I took multiple university courses on global warming, and though I am firm in my belief that humans are causing serious problems wrt global warming/overall health of the planet, noone really knows the extent of our damage/what will actually happen.

I've heard a few people make an interesting point; science and scientific fact are based on performing multiple experiments to confirm a theory (and help dismiss all other factors that dissuade from the theory). Unfortunately, we only have one earth, and can't run multiple tests to see what happens when we mess things up on an earth wide scale. Post industrial revolution pollution is currently a worldwide experiment; half of the scientific world believes that we need not worry about the pollution. The other half says 'well, you could be right, and we could be fine. However, if you are wrong, we are buggered, and can't exactly start the experiment fresh (only one earth). Do you really want to take that chance?'

To me, it sure isn't a chance worth taking.

yea.. but we do have mars.. and there aint no people there (that we know of! LOL)

and Mars is getting warmer..

so perhaps.. global warming really has very little to do with us and more to do with the solar system in general..

maybe the sun outputting more energy than in the past has something to do with it?

food for thought.

[CodecX81]

Doesn't the sun release its mass until it goes supernova, then becomes a black hole?

Eventually, Mercury, Venus and possibly earth are supposed to be engulfed by its mass.. whose to say that this is just the beginning of that process?

Its getting hot on earth, but mars is getting warmer too, so there must be a commonality between the two.

[ElChico]

Doesn't the sun release its mass until it goes supernova, then becomes a black hole?

Eventually, Mercury, Venus and possibly earth are supposed to be engulfed by its mass.. whose to say that this is just the beginning of that process?

Its getting hot on earth, but mars is getting warmer too, so there must be a commonality between the two.

The suns composition changes as it's fuel is used up. We have many Billions of years left. And our sun is low risk for supernova....it'll become a boring white dwarf star instead.