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Possible second call to meet with President of Company!! Anyone have any experience?

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^ You are right actually. I made the mistake of getting my hopes up..I always tell myself NOT to after an interview!
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Jun 5th, 2013 11:32 pm
They wanted to get someone to start by Monday and have the second interview Thursday, which is tomorrow :( So I am thinking they are not going to call. Thanks for your understanding! I will get over it but I really wanted this job, and I feel really disappointed..probably because I never wanted a job so bad like I wanted this one :( And everyone says I am desperate .. no I just really wanted this job and I thought the interview went really well. Sucks
I've really wanted a job before and been shot down plenty of times. Not fun and does get stressful, don't put all your eggs into one basket.

On a side note, just because they need someone by Monday doesn't mean they will fill it by then, they can still call you tomorrow or even Friday. Life gets in the way (ie president/interview is sick, had this happen) or something else happens. Who knows just keep an open mind.

My suggestion is if its true they need someone by Monday, is try doing a followup call. You can try Friday to find out how you did on your interview and thank then for taking the time to interview you. If you don't want to a call just send an e-mail.
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Jun 5th, 2013 11:55 pm
I've really wanted a job before and been shot down plenty of times. Not fun and does get stressful, don't put all your eggs into one basket.

On a side note, just because they need someone by Monday doesn't mean they will fill it by then, they can still call you tomorrow or even Friday. Life gets in the way (ie president/interview is sick, had this happen) or something else happens. Who knows just keep an open mind.

My suggestion is if its true they need someone by Monday, is try doing a followup call. You can try Friday to find out how you did on your interview and thank then for taking the time to interview you. If you don't want to a call just send an e-mail.
You are right I found it was a small window for them to find someone .. If they dont call tomorrow than I will know for sure that they called someone else! Thanks
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You are right I found it was a small window for them to find someone .. If they dont call tomorrow than I will know for sure that they called someone else! Thanks
Good luck!
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For a small business, perfectly normal. A lot of these sorts of people view every dollar that the business spends as one of their own. Typically you see the best and worst out of these sorts of people.

For a large business, (ie: >100 people), kind of concerning unless its a significant management role. After all, it may be a sign of extreme micro-management from the top, rather than an environment in which professionals are empowered to make decisions.
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One thing that's coming across to others and me from your postings is that you are getting very excited, nervous, stressed, etc. that may subconsciously come across in the interview without you knowing. I used to be like you, "omg - the C something O is flying out here to tour our office! Better clean up the desk and look good, etc." Now - it's more like a pain in why is this guy pulling everyone's time away from the crap load of work building up so he can feel special?

Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is to be calm, assertive and take the time to think of intelligent replies to the interviewers question no matter what title they hold. They are all a human being at the end of the day so don't be afraid to ask for some time to think, water to calm your nerves and buy time to think, etc.

Like others have said, it's also a two way street - why does the company want you to work to them? What kinds of perks/benefits do they offer? Training? Tuition reimbursement? etc.


And Mark, not sure what point you were trying to make but a good manager does treat the business money like their own, nothing wrong with making sure expenditures are justified and have some benefit to the business. That's why we see manager's incentive plans that try to align as closely with shareholders' interests as much as possible.
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Jun 6th, 2013 2:56 am
And Mark, not sure what point you were trying to make but a good manager does treat the business money like their own, nothing wrong with making sure expenditures are justified and have some benefit to the business. That's why we see manager's incentive plans that try to align as closely with shareholders' interests as much as possible.
Sure, but some really don't understand their roles, or they're arrogant about it, or they gloat, etc. I think in a big public company, people are generally more immune to higher managers bringing their personal issues to work, than what you would see in a smaller company that's perhaps owned by husband and wife.

Not to say that this applies to all companies, but I've seen it in the interviewing process, and it comes off as being extremely unprofessional and disruptive. If a company with 100+ people is being micromanaged like that, where the CEO has to meet every new hire (ie: the managers aren't trusted to do something as trivial as merely hiring an employee) -- that's a bit of a warning sign.
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One thing that's coming across to others and me from your postings is that you are getting very excited, nervous, stressed, etc. that may subconsciously come across in the interview without you knowing. I used to be like you, "omg - the C something O is flying out here to tour our office! Better clean up the desk and look good, etc." Now - it's more like a pain in why is this guy pulling everyone's time away from the crap load of work building up so he can feel special?

Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is to be calm, assertive and take the time to think of intelligent replies to the interviewers question no matter what title they hold. They are all a human being at the end of the day so don't be afraid to ask for some time to think, water to calm your nerves and buy time to think, etc.

Like others have said, it's also a two way street - why does the company want you to work to them? What kinds of perks/benefits do they offer? Training? Tuition reimbursement? etc.


And Mark, not sure what point you were trying to make but a good manager does treat the business money like their own, nothing wrong with making sure expenditures are justified and have some benefit to the business. That's why we see manager's incentive plans that try to align as closely with shareholders' interests as much as possible.
I hear what you are saying. In the interview I was calm, and did try my best to answer the questions with ease..which is surprising because I usually have a hard time with interviews and might be the reason why I am having a hard time grasping the fact that I didnt get a call. I sincerely thought that I was..but I understand someone probably landed the second interview because of more experience etc.... whatever it may be, I will have to get over it! So lets not assume that I was a nervous needy freak in the interview! I answered the questions honestly and made sure to give them examples of my skills and why I would be good for their company. Somebody probably just answered those questions better, or seemed to have more to offer in the eyes of the interviewers.
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I find when you have an interview with the VP or president it's never really about the job... it's more about how you think about policy or your thoughts about the direction of the industry or the company. They want to know if your "thinking" or mentality is same as the company. The nitty gritty "do you know about your job details" interview is already done by the immediate hiring manager or senior co-worker. Once you pass that then they already know 90-95% you can technically do the job. The president or VP interview is more to determine if she's a "team player" is she "with us" attitude. My first job out of uni was in HK for the Bank of Tokyo-Sumitomo. I had an interview with the director of Capital markets and dealing. I was nervous and scared, my first big interview.. studied and went over everything technically about capital markets and investment banking. Checked their website and made sure I knew everything about the company... memorize every detail about my resume so I wouldnt be caught dead with a surprise question. I walk into the interview and he told me to have a seat. This is the big japanese boss from Tokyo. He just ask me one question - What do you think about HK as place to do business for international firms?? That was it. One question. I went through a big speech and rant about asian capital markets, openness of HK to international trade, taxation policies, economic history, etc. It was almost like a 10 min answer. I thought I was pissing the guy off. He was expressionless. Shows no emotion. He just said "Good. Thank you for dropping by." with a slight grin. That was it. That was the interview. The whole thing was like 15 min from the time I met him to leaving his office. I thought I crapped out and lost the job. Then three days later the chinese HR dude said I got the job. Come in and sign the papers. You never know what to expect...
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Why don't you give them a quick follow up call today? If they say they already have someone else in mind thank them and ask for some feedback on your interview.
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krissypoo27 wrote:
Jun 6th, 2013 3:09 am
I hear what you are saying. In the interview I was calm, and did try my best to answer the questions with ease..which is surprising because I usually have a hard time with interviews and might be the reason why I am having a hard time grasping the fact that I didnt get a call. I sincerely thought that I was..but I understand someone probably landed the second interview because of more experience etc.... whatever it may be, I will have to get over it! So lets not assume that I was a nervous needy freak in the interview! I answered the questions honestly and made sure to give them examples of my skills and why I would be good for their company. Somebody probably just answered those questions better, or seemed to have more to offer in the eyes of the interviewers.
Truth be told... managers hire people like themselves and it doesnt mean technically speaking or job wise. More or less a personality and team fit. You can have a douche bag who knows nothing about the job or have little experience but if the candidate is a smoozer, good talker and gets on a buddy buddy impression with the hiring manager - same likes, dislikes - the person is "in" for the job 75-80% right away. That's why sometimes you get idiots on the job who are technically Bullsh-- in terms of skill set but they get along with everybody and is the most popular person on the floor. The company will rather downsize you than him/her because they promote a "good team fit". Total BS but that's the game played in most companies. You also never know... nepotism plays a large part. How do you know the person they hired wasnt a friend, relative, an internal "referral", etc?? Happens waaay more times than you think. They just have to interview outsiders because of HR policy even though they already hired a candidate in mind. You always notice those jobs. You see the post on the company's career website as open one day... then next day post is already filled. You're thinking WTF???? Favoratism occurs everywhere. Same with rejection. Once you get used to it it's no big deal - SWSWN - "so what so what, next!" I would wait till monday/tuesday and if you still havent heard anything then call back HR and ask.
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Jun 6th, 2013 7:30 am
Truth be told... managers hire people like themselves and it doesnt mean technically speaking or job wise. More or less a personality and team fit. You can have a douche bag who knows nothing about the job or have little experience but if the candidate is a smoozer, good talker and gets on a buddy buddy impression with the hiring manager - same likes, dislikes - the person is "in" for the job 75-80% right away. That's why sometimes you get idiots on the job who are technically Bullsh-- in terms of skill set but they get along with everybody and is the most popular person on the floor. The company will rather downsize you than him/her because they promote a "good team fit". Total BS but that's the game played in most companies. You also never know... nepotism plays a large part. How do you know the person they hired wasnt a friend, relative, an internal "referral", etc?? Happens waaay more times than you think. They just have to interview outsiders because of HR policy even though they already hired a candidate in mind. You always notice those jobs. You see the post on the company's career website as open one day... then next day post is already filled. You're thinking WTF???? Favoratism occurs everywhere. Same with rejection. Once you get used to it it's no big deal - SWSWN - "so what so what, next!" I would wait till monday/tuesday and if you still havent heard anything then call back HR and ask.
A good manager is not hiring because they are like themselves. They are not hiring necessarily because the person is the best candidate. The objective is to build the best team.
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Best thing to do right after a good interview is to apply to more jobs! It's really hard to do especially if you think the opportunity is a great fit and the interview went well, but you have to forget it and move onto the next.

I had my first interview for a job I really wanted at the start of April, I went on my third and final interview about 3 weeks ago. HR told me it's between me and one other candidate and I still haven't heard back. In the mean time I applied to another position that I'm not as excited about, but have just received an offer from. Just keep applying and don't get too attached.
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Jun 6th, 2013 7:28 am
Why don't you give them a quick follow up call today? If they say they already have someone else in mind thank them and ask for some feedback on your interview.
I guess I could do that!
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Thanks for more of the insight! I will learn next time to not get my hopes up too high.
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