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PSA: All NCIX stores in Ontario closing. Update: NCIX has filed for bankruptcy

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Freeatlast wrote:
Dec 6th, 2017 9:34 pm
  • American Express - $4,536,211.66
I wonder how many new cars he bought with that Amex card... gotta love "no preset spending limit" as I'm sure that's a platinum or Centurion charge card and not a credit card -- buy everything you want, then file bankruptcy! Smart guy :-)
Did he also leave the country for good, taking all that loot with him in a nice big COSCO shipping container (also paid for using that Amex card)? (yes, there is no T is COSCO)
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EastGTARedFlagger wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 12:40 am
I wonder how many new cars he bought with that Amex card... gotta love "no preset spending limit" as I'm sure that's a platinum or Centurion charge card and not a credit card -- buy everything you want, then file bankruptcy! Smart guy :-)
From having a bit more time to look at it:

AMEX Buyer Initiated Payment - $3,693,558.03

From Amex:

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Instead of using cumbersome paper based checks or ACH payments, simply pick the exact date and amount for your payments. Batch them like your standard check or ACH run, and American Express will process them as directed leaving you with cash in hand to better manage your business.
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Freeatlast wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 1:00 am
From having a bit more time to look at it:

AMEX Buyer Initiated Payment - $3,693,558.03

From Amex:
So much stuff I never knew about the business world
Extend Payment Terms & Optimize Working Capital
With a Single, Digital Solution
Buyer Initiated Payments (BIP) is an electronic payment method that allows you to leverage your American Express billing cycle to extend payment terms with your suppliers. Use American Express BIP to extend your organization’s DPO ‡ (Days Payable Outstanding), while managing DCOH (Days Cash on Hand).

Instead of using cumbersome paper based checks or ACH payments, simply pick the exact date and amount for your payments. Batch them like your standard check or ACH run, and American Express will process them as directed leaving you with cash in hand to better manage your business.
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burnt69 wrote:
Dec 5th, 2017 10:22 pm
I'm unaware of any statements, from the trustee, from others, etc., that NCIX is no longer a going concern insofar as mail order is concerned. Looking on Reddit, there are statements by people apparently knowledgeable about the matter that orders are continuing to be taken, shipments are continuing to ship, and certain senior staff remain with the company.

It is dangerous to just blindly assume that because the company entered into a bankruptcy filing, that they will shut down. There are reasons why they might need bankruptcy as a tool to deal with terminating their unsuccessful brick and mortar retail operations.



That's not true according to comments on Reddit.



Are you stating these statements as facts? Did you spend the $6 to read the filing? Do you understand that a company like NCIX may not even have owned much of their inventory, as is common in the tech industry?
Correct me I am wrong, but for some of the products NCIX sells, they acted like a "middle man" the actual vendor would ship-out sell any item they listed on their site, then once sold NCIX would get it profit for the sale?
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Exp315 wrote:
Dec 6th, 2017 12:40 pm
I got my points order in as fast as possible, and it was acknowledged, but still no pickup confirmation. I think the points are dead.Confused Face
I tried to redeem points this morning but the cart doesn't have a check out function. That totally sucks. I've been saving points for YEARS and I'm sitting on over 26,000 that I was trying to redeem, but can't. I'm guessing these will just disappear.
Forums are also disabled. Lesson learned. :(
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EEE2 wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 11:01 am
Correct me I am wrong, but for some of the products NCIX sells, they acted like a "middle man" the actual vendor would ship-out sell any item they listed on their site, then once sold NCIX would get it profit for the sale?
Correct. That's how most of the small computer shops operate - they get your money first, then place an order with the wholesale distributor for delivery next day (or ASAP), then they ship it to you. Unfortunately that means that sometimes they run into supply problems if the distributor is back-ordered, in which case they sit on your money until either the stock shows up or you demand a refund. As a larger retailer NCIX did carry more inventory than most, but they were still guilty of this sometimes.
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Advil_Yum wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 11:59 am
I tried to redeem points this morning but the cart doesn't have a check out function. That totally sucks. I've been saving points for YEARS and I'm sitting on over 26,000 that I was trying to redeem, but can't. I'm guessing these will just disappear.
Forums are also disabled. Lesson learned. :(
How did people not see the need to redeem their points and advantage dollars in June or July when financial instability rumblings started happening with the closing of the Ontario locations?

That should have been a sign...
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Advil_Yum wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 11:59 am
I tried to redeem points this morning but the cart doesn't have a check out function. That totally sucks. I've been saving points for YEARS and I'm sitting on over 26,000 that I was trying to redeem, but can't. I'm guessing these will just disappear.
Forums are also disabled. Lesson learned. :(
You only found out when the bankruptcy hit the news media?
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blainehamilton wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 12:25 pm
How did people not see the need to redeem their points and advantage dollars in June or July when financial instability rumblings started happening with the closing of the Ontario locations?

That should have been a sign...
There was nothing good to buy?
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I really hope they some how recover. If they go away. Wont be good for competition. Canada Computers is already rude and overpriced, this will make them even worst.
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Music to my ears. Thats Karma and saw it coming years ago when I boycotted them.

Pure trash company. They were little more than a middle man. Hope the people in charge are truly held responsible and not getting away with robbery like they have in the past
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EEE2 wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 11:01 am
Correct me I am wrong, but for some of the products NCIX sells, they acted like a "middle man" the actual vendor would ship-out sell any item they listed on their site, then once sold NCIX would get it profit for the sale?
Most computer retailers will do drop ship orders from a distributor for items they do not have in stock since this is less risk. NCIX charges customers in full for items they don't have in stock and then orders it from a distributor or vendor. Many customers got caught in this process as NCIX changed the website months ago to make items they don't have in stock and were in stock with distributors look like they were actually in stock at NCIX. They removed the on hand inventory information to complete the ruse. As you can see from the creditor list NCIX owed over 15 million to the big distributors in Canada and was on credit hold with them. In addition the creditor list shows how few remaining brands they were still buying directly from. They ran up credit cards trying to order product prepaid from either distributors or vendors or in many cases other retailers like Amazon or other local computer stores. Some customer orders got filled but a lot of money was used to pay creditors instead. This is why you have customers complaining about orders 3-4 months old that were never filled.

They also had consignment deals with some of the vendors that you can see on the filing. For those they sent inventory to NCIX then NCIX would give them almost all of the profit from the sale and pay for the inventory as it sold to customers.
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EEE2 wrote:
Dec 7th, 2017 1:52 pm
I really hope they some how recover. If they go away. Wont be good for competition. Canada Computers is already rude and overpriced, this will make them even worst.
There will probably be more competition if they do go away, at least for some years since everyone will be fighting to gain that extra market share. There is a lot of business to fight over which means cheaper prices and more promotions.
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badOne wrote:
Dec 6th, 2017 10:30 pm
I wonder if Mr Wu had to declare personal bankruptcy. That would be sad - worked this hard to screw it all up this late.
The filing indicates debt from the owner and his wife from shareholder loans, credit cards and bank accounts. In addition to that some houses were sold to provide ncix with some capital. At least one vendor requested a lien on a personal property.

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