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Public transit is terrible

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  • Jan 15th, 2019 11:29 pm
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Damn this is cheap. You ever hear Montreal saying Thank you Canada?Winking Face

TTC Monthly Pass $146.25
Fares
http://www.stm.info/en/info/fares/trans ... nthly-pass
Regular fare: $85
Reduced fare - age 6 -17*: $51
Reduced fare students - age 18 and +*: $51
Reduced fare - age 65 and +*: $51
You guys seem trapped by the confines of your own ideologies.
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TBH TTC is pretty cheap! $1.50 or less a ride for a return trip when within 2 hours using presto so not bad!

Less than 1/2 the price of NY!

You only live twice ǝɔᴉʍʇ 😎
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callernamet wrote:
Jan 9th, 2019 2:38 pm
Damn this is cheap. You ever hear Montreal saying Thank you Canada?Winking Face

TTC Monthly Pass $146.25
What's included in the TTC pass? The Montreal metro pass does not include Laval, south shore, or any commuter trains beyond zone 1.
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Corleone187 wrote:
Jan 9th, 2019 3:42 pm
TBH TTC is pretty cheap! $1.50 or less a ride for a return trip when within 2 hours using presto so not bad!

Less than 1/2 the price of NY!

I agree. The obstacle is not price.

It's either convenience, or lack thereof, or maybe a cultural love of the automobile.
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If you're leaving the house, and all you have available is crappy public transit and walking, I doubt you'll just do one thing then head straight home. You'd probably go around, do all the things you can so that you won't be wasting that time on other days, then go home. Being able to do all that within 2 hours sounds pretty slim at this point.
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mr_raider wrote:
Jan 9th, 2019 4:32 pm
What's included in the TTC pass? The Montreal metro pass does not include Laval, south shore, or any commuter trains beyond zone 1.
Still zone one is pretty large. Here we dont want to create zones as its lot of work for TTC, Management, planning and enforcement, computer systems.
You guys seem trapped by the confines of your own ideologies.
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Chickennbeans wrote:
Jan 9th, 2019 9:11 am
I'm usually all for open consultation, but the parasitic impact of strong-willed people speaking up about issues they 'feel' badly about (with no actual competence) is sinking our communities like quicksand.

Hopefully the move to intellectual, analytical and tangible industries will begin to overshadow the creative and emotional disciplines resulting in recovery to a balanced society. (Although that seems unlikely until we hit rock bottom/catastrophe)
yep
too many liberal arts degrees out there, and their voices carry to much weight for representing no one.
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Transit is always messed up everywhere.
Low frequency, high fares, takes too long to get anywhere (pretty much impossible to run errands within 2 hrs and be back home to save on fares) and then overcrowding.
And on top of that, having to deal with drunks, mentally ill and harrassment and no protection is just a disaster.
It's no wonder that it becomes cheaper or worth it to get a car and drive.

People criticise the ttc but look at the burbs, even they got shitty transit services. Who the eff wants to wait an hour in frigid temps for a bus ride?

Thank God there is ride-sharing available for many people at least they got some options now rather than only bus/train.
Besides, the politicians want automakers to roll and not transit. No vision. No planning. Just only canadian incompetence as always, and the people bend over to take it all the time.
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heymikey wrote:
Jan 8th, 2019 8:21 pm
Ok, comparing Canada to China is like apples to oranges, but still....

Beijing (2001-2016)

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Shanghai (1994-2014)

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That's the few benefits of a single party government. Stuff gets done quickly.

There's is no bargaining. "Oh you live here? Ok we are turning your place into a multiplex luxury condo. We will compensate by giving you a unit. Don't want it? Too bad"

2008 Olympics, they cleared the smog in a few weeks by shutting down all the factories. Imagine if Trudeau suddenly went to Toronto and forced all the factories to shut down and workers to go home??
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Everyone complaining about cheap (almost free) transportation so they can live in the sticks while working downtown.
Please respond
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I think the title of this thread should be changed to Toronto Public transit is terrible...

If you have taken public transit on other countries, you would rank the TTC as below average.

But that's how it is here in Canada. You might be complaining about that lazy TTC attendant you saw who was playing candy crush on his/her phone during work, but ironically you are making that complain on RFD off-topic during your work hours. I have a few friends who makes $150K/year and they spend a lot of their time at work surfing the web or trading stocks on their phone.

TTC not working? I'd work from home today, or take a sick day. See you tomorrow, maybe.

If you want your TTC to show up at your station on time, like a machine, you better have the work ethics of a Japanese intern and the stamina of a Chinese factory worker, because that's what your boss will expect from you in a country where the transit system is never late.
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Statistics101 wrote:
Jan 13th, 2019 1:50 pm
I think the title of this thread should be changed to Toronto Public transit is terrible...

If you have taken public transit on other countries, you would rank the TTC as below average.
Fun fact, A recent study found that Toronto has the highest average commute time in North America and 6th highest in the world
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/new-study-fi ... -1.3983235
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ReeGee wrote:
Jan 13th, 2019 2:02 pm
Fun fact, A recent study found that Toronto has the highest average commute time in North America and 6th highest in the world
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/new-study-fi ... -1.3983235
It's just a lack of effort to improve on anything. Over the past 20 years, what did we do to improve this city's transportation network? Replacing the 30 year old subway trains with new trains that wouldn't fit on the tracks without modifications because Olivia Chow liked the design?

I was at the Bloor/Yonge station last week and I had a slight brain fart and couldn't figure out how to get to the line 2 platform...and I have taken the TTC for over 20 years! Imagine if you were a tourist with limited English skills. The signage are not clear, the design is subpar and the people are rude. When we actually care and try to do something about it, we won't listen to any advice and and just end up making things worst. But that's the way we are here.
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It's always chicken or the egg with public transit.

Transit use is down so the government doesn't want to invest in it. Likewise, if the government doesn't invest in it, people think it's terrible so won't take it.
Then you get into the politic argument that rural voters don't want the government to subsidize public transit in cities as they don't benefit from it (this often happens in the US which partly explains the popularity of the electoral college, but that's another story)

To get real, proper public transit, you need massive density in the urban cities that justifies the government investing a large chunk of its budget in it. As long as Canadians continue to sprawl and desire to own suburban detached homes, you won't get the density required to warrant government interest in better transit.

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