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Public transport evaders.

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Public transport evaders.

Have you ever evaded paying for public transportation? Was it peer pressure? Could not afford it? Protesting? Social media dare?What was your reason behind it?
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I fell asleep on the GO train once and overshot my stop by 2 stations, then got off and got on the next train going back to my station, all without paying for that extra distance. Does that count?
Could HAVE, not could OF. What does 'could of' even mean?
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I admit I try very hard to avoid using public transport.
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One time I was in Vancouver and went to use the transit. Couldn't find where to pay, so I thought it was free.
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Never evaded. In Toronto we have the TTC. I still think proof of payment system is the most backwards thing ever. Every other country I have been to has a much better system.

In Seoul for example you tap when you get on and when you get out. This applies for buses and subway. Inter city trains (KTX) require a prepaid ticket. In the subways, it's gated so you can't get out if you don't tap. If you have insufficient funds it will tell you to refill and won't let you out. On buses, if you don't tap on exit, the system assumes the highest rate after a certain period of time. The mean "uncles" driving buses won't let you get on without tapping.

In the TTC, the street cars are so easy to avoid paying. I've used maybe 10 times in 2019 and never been inspected once (though I had paid each time). The subway gates are low enough that I've seen people jump/climb over it. There is no tap out system and anyone can just walk out. Workers with union mentality don't seem to give a damn, probably because their union rule says their personal safety comes first.

TTC is losing revenue due to stupidity. Worse yet, a fully electronic system like the one in Seoul would be useful in collecting ridership data, such as length of trips, and stop usage. Then we can use such information for better city planning and dedicate resource to aligning bus routes to citizen's needs. All this inefficiency because of the friggin unions. They want to create some cushy jobs.
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Every time the fare collector was asleep.
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BananaHunter wrote:
Dec 4th, 2019 2:08 pm
Never evaded. In Toronto we have the TTC. I still think proof of payment system is the most backwards thing ever. Every other country I have been to has a much better system.

In Seoul for example you tap when you get on and when you get out. This applies for buses and subway. Inter city trains (KTX) require a prepaid ticket. In the subways, it's gated so you can't get out if you don't tap. If you have insufficient funds it will tell you to refill and won't let you out. On buses, if you don't tap on exit, the system assumes the highest rate after a certain period of time. The mean "uncles" driving buses won't let you get on without tapping.

In the TTC, the street cars are so easy to avoid paying. I've used maybe 10 times in 2019 and never been inspected once (though I had paid each time). The subway gates are low enough that I've seen people jump/climb over it. There is no tap out system and anyone can just walk out. Workers with union mentality don't seem to give a damn, probably because their union rule says their personal safety comes first.

TTC is losing revenue due to stupidity. Worse yet, a fully electronic system like the one in Seoul would be useful in collecting ridership data, such as length of trips, and stop usage. Then we can use such information for better city planning and dedicate resource to aligning bus routes to citizen's needs. All this inefficiency because of the friggin unions. They want to create some cushy jobs.
They use cellphone towers to track usage data.

Toronto.com has all the usage stats in Toronto and they are pretty accurate.
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People aren’t paying in Toronto because it’s too easy to get away with it. In 3 years and +/- 500 rides on a streetcar I’ve seen fare inspectors once. Furthermore, when they boarded they told everyone to go tap if they didn’t already. This free public transit system needs to stop.
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Should be free. Then nobody would want to drive and this would reduce greenhouse gas emissions tremendously.
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cheapmeister wrote:
Dec 5th, 2019 4:22 pm
Should be free. Then nobody would want to drive and this would reduce greenhouse gas emissions tremendously.
The public libraries are free, and the snow removal are also free..

But I think it's more liberal and equal for all IFF subway (and the parking at all manjor hubs) to be free, or next to free, if congestion is concerned.

People shouldn't be driving where it's already congested. The reisdents in those area are paying for both the mantinenance and the opportunity cost of the congestion.

If out of GTA want to use my Toronto road, pay your fair share of TTC through your property taxes too.
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Once. I was coming back from Oshawa and realized my Presto load never made it to my card when I tapped before getting on the GO train. I would've had to wait an hour for the next train if I went to talk to an attendant about it, so I just got one.

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