Racism and Toronto shootings

[mbg]

Does anyone consider it "racist" to continually deny that there is a problem in some parts of the black community in Toronto, thereby allowing these shootings to continue?

IMO, it's a bit racist to sit in middle-class, white suburbs or rural areas debating the topic while the violence continues, trying to decide on who can be the most politically correct while young black people are being shot with increased frequency.

[xxx]

Black victims were shot by Blacks.

[Shaner]

The Toronto Police Chief is too scared to admit that there is a huge problem with the black community in Toronto. He knows it and everyone else knows it, but people don't want to admit it out in the open for fear of being called a racist.

It's time to stop being PC and start admitting that there are problems in this country that involve race.

[aquariaguy]

Yup, i agree.

[UrbanPoet]

race smaace...
The root of all these problems is Social living conditions.

Im pretty sure that people living in the middle class or upper class are less likely to become drug dealers or gangsters taht end up shooting each other.

We gotta get to teh root of the problem... It could be our education system, how we help out ppl from lower classes, and even the justice system.

[xxx]

But whose fault is it ?

[Suresh]

Brown people are being shot too buddy..
I guess white people are innocent?

[sportsfan99]

Not sure about toronto but in ottawa this summer more black youths have been pulled over more then white youths.Now this is a major issue.

[mbg]

Black victims were shot by Blacks.

I agree, but we're supposed to say it's a problem of poverty or something like that... seemingly oblivious to the fact that you've now stereotyped a whole majority of people in that category who raise their families very well on low incomes.

There is a problem in some areas of the black community. People in those problem areas do not help the cops, and it does not take a genius or a high income to use a payphone to leave anonymous tips.

The absence of fathers plays a role in the problem. This is a problem in some areas of the black community. Even though admitting this would bring gay marriage into question, it is a fact.

Low incomes in the above areas may be a contributor, but it's obviously not the reason. Dealing drugs is one of many options that you have. If the other options are not being exposed, it is primarily a fault of the family.

Why can't we say that?

[xxx]

Not sure about toronto but in ottawa this summer more black youths have been pulled over more then white youths.Now this is a major issue.

A lot of Asians get pulled over too.

[mbg]

The Toronto Police Chief is too scared to admit that there is a huge problem with the black community in Toronto. He knows it and everyone else knows it, but people don't want to admit it out in the open for fear of being called a racist.

It's time to stop being PC and start admitting that there are problems in this country that involve race.

And when the bastard mayor publicly blames it on America, you know he's not going to be trying to do much to solve the problem...

[UrbanPoet]

But whose fault is it ?

We are all a little to blame... We could all do our part by political lobbying or activism. Something even as little as recongizing the issue might even help.

alot of people just think 'damn..... brotha's dying out there! what a damn shame.........' and then just straight up point their fingers 'look at these dumb people killing each other....'

For example... If you look at Switzerland as a country... They have a relatively low crime rate! Why is that? Possibly its because of how well their wealth is distributed. Thats another reason why Canada has less crime then the States. In the states only the people on time are living large, while there are ppl living low.

[xxx]

I agree, but we're supposed to say it's a problem of poverty or something like that... seemingly oblivious to the fact that you've now stereotyped a whole majority of people in that category who raise their families very well on low incomes.

There is a problem in some areas of the black community. People in those problem areas do not help the cops, and it does not take a genius or a high income to use a payphone to leave anonymous tips.

The absence of fathers plays a role in the problem. This is a problem in some areas of the black community. Even though admitting this would bring gay marriage into question, it is a fact.

Low incomes in the above areas may be a contributor, but it's obviously not the reason. Dealing drugs is one of many options that you have. If the other options are not being exposed, it is primarily a fault of the family.

Why can't we say that?

Golden Rule : See no evil. Talk no evil. Hear no evil.

[Shaner]

race smaace...
The root of all these problems is Social living conditions.

Im pretty sure that people living in the middle class or upper class are less likely to become drug dealers or gangsters taht end up shooting each other.

We gotta get to teh root of the problem... It could be our education system, how we help out ppl from lower classes, and even the justice system.

You're absolutely right, it is more to do with living conditions and social class than race. But why is it that in Toronto most of the people who live in low-income housing are black?

If a white kid gets into trouble with the law because he's poor, nobody sympathizes with his situation. People expect him to take some responsibility, get a job, get an education and make something of himself. That's always the way it's been.

If a black kid gets into trouble and he's poor, people don't blame him, because that would be racist. Instead, they blame the community for not providing a better house for him to live in. They blame the government for not providing an education for him.

Guess what. Education is free and there are tons of jobs out there, but for some reason, there are too many black people in Toronto choosing not to make something of their lives.

Why is that?

[Neonextell]

It is the black communitry that is mostly responsible for this. But then again its also how the black children were brought up. They keep getting brought up poor. And in the slums of every community. Thats how they turn to violence and drugs. If a black person was brought up without this violence and obligations to be this sterotype "big tough guy from the ghetto". Than everything would be different. Media also plays a big roll aswell.