Reform Party immigration policy being implemented

[mbg]

The Conservative platform didn't say anything about this, but it was a part of the Reform platform:

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...l=968793972154

[FastFokker]

Harper is standing up for Canada.

[mbg]

I think it's reasonable policy, and much of the Canadian objection will be self-interested statements like, "but we need them to build our houses and clean our toilets!"

Family reunification can work both ways, and they are keeping the Conservative policy of keeping families together by returning the whole family, and not just one or two members.

[danfromwaterloo]

Here here!

I'd FAR rather have people who go through the system, and decide to leech off the system, than allow decent, hard working illegal aliens from remaining in the system.

Way to stand up for Canada!

[danfromwaterloo]

I think it's reasonable policy, and much of the Canadian objection will be self-interested statements like, "but we need them to build our houses!"

Guess what? Much of Canada is reliant upon illegal aliens to do the jobs that regular Canadians don't want to do. We import foreign workers to press our pants, harvest our crops, and build our houses. And for their efforts, they get below minimum wage, no healthcare, and a kick in the ass when their job is done.

[Byrns]

What part of illegal do people have problems figuring out?

[mbg]

Guess what? Much of Canada is reliant upon illegal aliens to do the jobs that regular Canadians don't want to do.

i.e. build our houses and clean our toilets.

I'm not saying that the decision is easy, but "let them stay because they clean our toilets" is a difficult statement for me to make.

I'll be interested to see what they do to expedite foreign credential recognition... those skilled jobs are the jobs Canada really needs for the future. The high school dropouts currently in IT management can clean the toilets

(I know the last part is silly -- they'll never clean toilets, no matter how dire their situation, and I recognize that that's your argument. I agree. But, I like Harper's message).

We import foreign workers to press our pants, harvest our crops, and build our houses. And for their efforts, they get below minimum wage, no healthcare, and a kick in the ass when their job is done.

Well, then, the NDP should be against it because of poor working conditions and low wages. You'd think the Conservatives would be for it because it provides a cheap labour source to businesses. Maybe there's more to this Conservative party than big business interest.

[hagbard]

Real conservatives favor a more open immigration policy. In the States, for example, its the Democrats that oppose "liberal" immigration policies. Open immigration and free trade are two sides of the same coin. What they don't support is public handouts.

OTOH, I go with lower immigration because without more immigrates, the housing market will collapse (not that it won't anyway, but it will completely tank). Like to pick up some cheap real estate.

[go leafs]

They should have immigrated legally if they wanted to stay in the country. They are illegal workers. And this is not some Reform policy, as the article says,

Immigration officials now say they will continue to enforce the existing policy, with increased resources.

In February, Immigration Canada notified the Portuguese embassy in Ottawa that it would continue with the current law and be strict in applying it, Maria Amélia Paiva, the consul-general in Toronto, told the Star's Isabel Teotonio.

[mbg]

They should have immigrated legally if they wanted to stay in the country. They are illegal workers. And this is not some Reform policy, as the article says,

The article doesn't say it's Reform policy. That's what I said. The Reform policy was to deal harshly with illegal immigration.

The new government is simply enforcing the existing law.

[hagbard]

They should have immigrated legally if they wanted to stay in the country. They are illegal workers. And this is not some Reform policy, as the article says,

You're ignoring the first paragragh:

Illegal workers in Toronto's underground economy are being deported as the new Conservative government abandons a Liberal amnesty plan, immigration lawyers and consultants say.

[mbg]

Illegal workers in Toronto's underground economy are being deported as the new Conservative government abandons a Liberal amnesty plan, immigration lawyers and consultants say.

It was a plan, not legislation. It was never implemented.

[hagbard]

It was a plan, not legislation. It was never implemented.

Oh, well the Reformers should implement it then. They won't, of course, because they're ignorant and xenophobic. They're bible thumping racists too, but I would never mention that.

[mbg]

They're bible thumping racists too, but I would never mention that.

The Liberals are all crooks and the NDP is only interested in the needs of the unions.

I'd never mention that, either, because it's not true.

[bionicbadger]

Oh, well the Reformers should implement it then. They won't, of course, because they're ignorant and xenophobic. They're bible thumping racists too, but I would never mention that.

So why have an immigration policy in the first place? Why not eliminate the bordereguards, immigration and customs officials and just let everyone who feels like it in the country?
The laws exist for a reason, those people being deported are staying in canada illegally. They broke the rules. They are too too dumb/lazy to go through the system and therefore should be kicked out. There are enough lawbreakers in canada as it is, we dont need to import more from other countries. If they want to come to canada there is a process they can go through to become immigrants.

EDIT: bad spelling