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Replace front entrance door

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Replace front entrance door

Hi,

Trying to wrap my head around a few home door and window replacements and how much I could expect to pay for them.

Front entrance door: Just the door - no transom or sidelights. I want a door with a window. How do I determine if I can get a door to fit the same frame?
Patio sliding door - one of the sliding doors the window broke. Do I have to replace the whole thing or can I just replace one door?
Exterior window - window chipped and needs replacing

If I get all three done at the same time, can I negotiate a deal for the labour?
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@Jericho posts in most of the entrance door threads - I think they work for a door manufacturer. While his posts are generally against big box stores and opting for higher end doors, the knowledge he can share might help with questions around your entrance door.

My answers are:
a) You can measure your existing door and install another door in it's place. Many people do this just to upgrade their door. Provided your frame is square it would give you little problems to do and be relatively simple. Just make sure you get the hinges mortised at the same height as your existing.
b) You could just replace the window in the sliding door if you want.
c) Yes you can negotiate on labour however window companies generally charge quite a bit and your job is rather small (not a whole house replacement). Especially with wanting to just replace the door itself, you may need more of a general handyman / renovation company and not a window/door specialist.
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TrevorK wrote:
Jan 26th, 2019 10:39 pm
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a) You can measure your existing door and install another door in it's place. Many people do this just to upgrade their door. Provided your frame is square it would give you little problems to do and be relatively simple. Just make sure you get the hinges mortised at the same height as your existing.
b) You could just replace the window in the sliding door if you want.
c) Yes you can negotiate on labour however window companies generally charge quite a bit and your job is rather small (not a whole house replacement). Especially with wanting to just replace the door itself, you may need more of a general handyman / renovation company and not a window/door specialist.
A) yes you can. However, don’t expect to save much on the door itself as a door with no jambs and a door with jambs pretty much cost the same amount for end consumers. Most window/door pro shops won’t touch this. But you can order the door with the hinges in the right place and handle bore in the right place and install yourself. I’d also pull the trim off the inside jambs and make sure it’s properly spray foamed. The big advantage of this is it’s very diy with basic skills. I would not attempt a self install of a full replacement unit as you don’t have access to a metal brake and the right caulking for finishing the outside. You hire a pro to do the 20% you can’t do or don’t have the skill for. And you hire a pro to finish the job the same day it started.

B) you can replace the window but most builder sliding doors are hot garbage. A new patio door typically runs about $1800 installed and anything I’d buy comes with a lifetime warranty

C) no one is negotiating on labour under 10-15k. Our average contract is around 7k. I understand it’s a lot of money to you but to installers it’s a slow Tuesday to do a single door, window and patio door. They would be back in the shop by 3pm
Gbill2004: Thanks but I'll just smell the couch before/if I buy it.

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Jerico wrote:
Jan 27th, 2019 3:11 am
I would not attempt a self install of a full replacement unit as you don’t have access to a metal brake and the right caulking for finishing the outside.
Which caulking.....I use Osi Quad, readily available.
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So if the average contract is around 7k that is probably how much I should expect to pay? Plus the front door. Plus the new sliding doors (you mentioned $1800?)
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Zamboni wrote:
Jan 27th, 2019 9:37 am
Which caulking.....I use Osi Quad, readily available.
The windows I had done used Mulco Supra.
I know you can get Mulco Flextra at Rona. I'm not sure how different the two are. Both are thermoplastic rubber-based sealants.
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Zamboni wrote:
Jan 27th, 2019 9:37 am
Which caulking.....I use Osi Quad, readily available.
Its not caulking, its a sealant and bloody expensive in anything but bulk. The Mulco stuff is all we touch.
Gbill2004: Thanks but I'll just smell the couch before/if I buy it.

jonnyb: I go in there like PICASSO and toss the glue everywhere, I don't care what house I'm on.
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Rygha wrote:
Jan 27th, 2019 9:47 am
So if the average contract is around 7k that is probably how much I should expect to pay? Plus the front door. Plus the new sliding doors (you mentioned $1800?)
The average across all our installs in a year. Some are $2k patio doors and some are $25k+ whole home installs. Last year with GreenOn our average went to $12k per contract.

If its just a front door, I’d say $2600, patio door $1800 and window depends on the size but on average (again across all windows we do) $1000 all plus tax.

Coloured doors (patio and front) or windows add, as do triple glazing, blinds inside the patio door etc.
Gbill2004: Thanks but I'll just smell the couch before/if I buy it.

jonnyb: I go in there like PICASSO and toss the glue everywhere, I don't care what house I'm on.
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Shaidin wrote:
Jan 27th, 2019 9:55 am
The windows I had done used Mulco Supra.
I know you can get Mulco Flextra at Rona. I'm not sure how different the two are. Both are thermoplastic rubber-based sealants.
I'll have to try Mulco next time, reading a bit online and see posts of Quad failing 4-6 years on steel/aluminum with south sun exposure.
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Mulco Supra Expert. The only thing we use for windows. Doesn't get better
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WindowGuyLarry wrote:
Jan 28th, 2019 8:58 am
Mulco Supra Expert. The only thing we use for windows. Doesn't get better
Expert and Elite can be runny if you don’t know what you are doing though.
Gbill2004: Thanks but I'll just smell the couch before/if I buy it.

jonnyb: I go in there like PICASSO and toss the glue everywhere, I don't care what house I'm on.

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