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SAVINGSTAR wrote:
Jul 27th, 2018 11:28 am
Don't sell those buttkickers without talking to me first.

I have been thinking about needing them in my theatre because I only got 1 subwoofer for my theatre, but I am planning on putting the sub nearfield so I might not need buttkickers but if nearfield doesn't pan out I will be wanting to do buttkickers so I would be happy to take them off your hands if it comes to that.
Ummm.... I don't own any butt-kicker units yet. Probably how I worded it previously. But I was saying that I DON'T need to buy tactile transducers for the back row of seats. My room is wired up so that I have the capability of adding transducer units to both rows of seats if I ever wanted to.

If I were to buy/install tactile transducers in the future, it would be for the 3 front row seats only.

In other news.... I watched "Ready Player One" last night... that scene near the end where boss of IOI uses that capsule to explode/kill everybody in the oasis and reset the score. The bass and tactile response in the theater was absolutely BOOOOOMING. I was only running the system at -35 too and the gain on the subwoofer amp turned up half-way. My wife was with me watching it and even she was impressed!! Easily my most favourite movie to watch in terms of object based surround sound (better than Pacific Rim Uprising)... the movement of sound throughout the entire movie was non-stop.

Gah.... I need to build and install my Atmos speakers ASAP.

After she went to bed, I watched first 30 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan". Despite it not being filmed in cinemascope (so I had the black bars on the sides of my 2.35:1 screen), the soundtrack is truly impressive. I certainly never experienced/appreciated this movie like this in the past. As they stormed the beach, your body literally gets assaulted with the sound of bullets and explosives all around you.

Ugh, so many great movies to watch, so little time.
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This would be the real test:
Saving Private Ryan, leading up to landing on Omaha beach.

You'll be ducking from the bullets whizzing buy your ears!
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this deserves thread of the year. no question. that is an absolutely dazzling setup.
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While not the same price (it is expensive), I would highly recommend a D-BOX system over buttkickers any day. The Ready Player One D-BOX Motion Code was released yesterday so I am going to watch it soon, it looks like a great movie.
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JEDI Force wrote:
Jul 28th, 2018 11:10 am
While not the same price (it is expensive), I would highly recommend a D-BOX system over buttkickers any day. The Ready Player One D-BOX Motion Code was released yesterday so I am going to watch it soon, it looks like a great movie.
Do you have a D-Box system installed at home? I've always wondered how much a system like that would run.

I've been to their head office in Quebec a few times for work and am always impressed by their systems.
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if you buy a d-box system, do you have to purchase the motion codes indvidually for movies or are they all available for download ?
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@Repooc for your atmos speakers are you doing on ceiling or in-ceiling?
how deep are your atmos speakers? if on ceiling, how do you mount them?
debating what i should do for my build. for my build - If i do decent soundproofing im going to have to build some sort of enclosure for them, and figure a way to mount the enclosure inside the ceiling should i do in ceiling.
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Repooc wrote:
Jul 27th, 2018 1:36 pm
Ummm.... I don't own any butt-kicker units yet. Probably how I worded it previously. But I was saying that I DON'T need to buy tactile transducers for the back row of seats. My room is wired up so that I have the capability of adding transducer units to both rows of seats if I ever wanted to.

If I were to buy/install tactile transducers in the future, it would be for the 3 front row seats only.

In other news.... I watched "Ready Player One" last night... that scene near the end where boss of IOI uses that capsule to explode/kill everybody in the oasis and reset the score. The bass and tactile response in the theater was absolutely BOOOOOMING. I was only running the system at -35 too and the gain on the subwoofer amp turned up half-way. My wife was with me watching it and even she was impressed!! Easily my most favourite movie to watch in terms of object based surround sound (better than Pacific Rim Uprising)... the movement of sound throughout the entire movie was non-stop.

Gah.... I need to build and install my Atmos speakers ASAP.

After she went to bed, I watched first 30 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan". Despite it not being filmed in cinemascope (so I had the black bars on the sides of my 2.35:1 screen), the soundtrack is truly impressive. I certainly never experienced/appreciated this movie like this in the past. As they stormed the beach, your body literally gets assaulted with the sound of bullets and explosives all around you.

Ugh, so many great movies to watch, so little time.
I would recommend watching Fury as well with your new system. I was impressed with my humble setup, can't imagine what it would be like with yours.
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discoblues wrote:
Jul 30th, 2018 2:50 pm
@Repooc for your atmos speakers are you doing on ceiling or in-ceiling?
how deep are your atmos speakers? if on ceiling, how do you mount them?
debating what i should do for my build. for my build - If i do decent soundproofing im going to have to build some sort of enclosure for them, and figure a way to mount the enclosure inside the ceiling should i do in ceiling.
This was another decision, that I probably spent more time than I should have; due to my tendency to overthink things. LOL.

While the idea to do in-ceiling speakers is certainly the cleanest in appaearance. I struggled to find a product that performed well in an atmos setup (ie: wide dispersion) AND not cost $1,000 per speaker.

So, going the DIY route (again) and landed on 4x Volt-10s (very well reviewed), which are a coaxial design speaker in a sealed atmos enclosure.

Now... This meant I could either install these boxes in the ceiling while taking the appropriate measures to build sound-proofed backer boxes. But the idea of cutting any kind of hole into my ceiling wasn't going to fly. So, I'm actually going with an pseudo-on-wall setup; mounting each of the encloures to the sides of my lighting cove overhang with a french cleat system.

This way I'm not completely fixed to any one position and can still fine tune it based on my 2 row setup. That wouldn't be possible with an in ceiling setup... You'd have to ber VERY committed to their positioning.
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richuwo11 wrote:
Jul 30th, 2018 4:31 pm
I would recommend watching Fury as well with your new system. I was impressed with my humble setup, can't imagine what it would be like with yours.
Thanks for the recommendation! Always appreciate hearing of good films to (re)watch.

I've seen Fury before, but would be nice if I can find a Dolby Atmos/DTS:X version of it
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french cleat to mount speakers close to the ceiling against a bulk head? ... very clever! - they'll even appear to be floating! Lets just hope the rattling from all that bass doesnt cause it to jump out of that groove :)

i guess thats another advantage of diy speakers vs buying overpriced ones - you dont feel so bad drilling obscure mounting holes in them!
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discoblues wrote:
Jul 30th, 2018 4:49 pm
french cleat to mount speakers close to the ceiling against a bulk head? ... very clever! - they'll even appear to be floating! Lets just hope the rattling from all that bass doesnt cause it to jump out of that groove :)

i guess thats another advantage of diy speakers vs buying overpriced ones - you dont feel so bad drilling obscure mounting holes in them!
Yeah, i'd be surprised if the bass knocked them out of position. But nothing a little set screw wont fix.

The other added bonus of doing diy speakers/enclosures is that you can install your speaker wire binding posts exactly where you want them to give you the cleanest look.
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Nice setup.

I have a similar room on my 2nd floor, only two issues I have.

1. The sound proofing sucks, I'll look into the insulation you used and see if just putting that in the walls fixes things.

2. My projector is 1080p and the HDR to SDR conversion is anemic. How do you deal with so much ATMOS content now being 4K HDR exclusive? Are you getting 1080p and 4K content and than ripping the ATMOS track out and muxing it into the 1080p version? Or just happy with the 4K SDR converted output of your blu ray?
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webdoctors wrote:
Jul 30th, 2018 6:10 pm
Nice setup.

I have a similar room on my 2nd floor, only two issues I have.

1. The sound proofing sucks, I'll look into the insulation you used and see if just putting that in the walls fixes things.

2. My projector is 1080p and the HDR to SDR conversion is anemic. How do you deal with so much ATMOS content now being 4K HDR exclusive? Are you getting 1080p and 4K content and than ripping the ATMOS track out and muxing it into the 1080p version? Or just happy with the 4K SDR converted output of your blu ray?
The HDR to SDR conversion on my Pansonic UB900 4K disc player is said to be the best, even better than the Oppo.

Honestly, im not bummed about not having HDR in the slightest. The brightness of my projector combined with having complete light control, I think, bridges that gap rather nicely.

For what it is on its own, I find HDR a bit overhyped. (flamesuit on). 4K resolution at the sizes/distances we're working with for projecton is stunning in its own right.

Definitely spring for native 4K projector if you can over a 1080P unit... Even something among the ranks of a "faux K" Epson with pixel shift would be money well spent.
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Repooc wrote:
Jul 30th, 2018 8:34 pm
The HDR to SDR conversion on my Pansonic UB900 4K disc player is said to be the best, even better than the Oppo.

Honestly, im not bummed about not having HDR in the slightest. The brightness of my projector combined with having complete light control, I think, bridges that gap rather nicely.

For what it is on its own, I find HDR a bit overhyped. (flamesuit on). 4K resolution at the sizes/distances we're working with for projecton is stunning in its own right.

Definitely spring for native 4K projector if you can over a 1080P unit... Even something among the ranks of a "faux K" Epson with pixel shift would be money well spent.
I agree, the whole HDR/Dolby Vision stuff is a mess and I wish they didn't tie the ATMOS sound tracks to it. There's still 4K TVs being sold at Costco that don't support HDR so its really messed up how folks buy 4K and than play 4K HDR content that's getting mapped to some garbage pallette.

Also, HDR doesn't even seem feasible on a projector so I've only been thinking about it so I can get around the mapping issue. (for TV show streaming like the Netflix Lost in Space) .

I recently switched from 5.2.4 to 7.2.4 speaker layout and didn't notice a difference due to my room being quite small, about 16x18 ft, online they say you don't really need to go 7.1 unless your room is bigger than 350 sq ft, so I'm curious how what factored into your 7.2.4 decision (since it requires moving up to a much more expensive receiver ):

https://www.themasterswitch.com/51-vs-7 ... -explained
How big is your room? If it’s larger than around 350 square feet, consider a 7.1 speaker setup. If it’s smaller, a 5.1 may be more appropriate.
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