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chiro1974 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 9:30 am
How much was your total order? How much have you ordered from them in the past? If its not a significant amount, why would you expect a deal?
I prefer not to answer the amount, but this would have been my first order with them.

Either way, I have found another place to purchase from and the staff there are a lot friendlier. Made a big purchase with them last week and told them what I was still looking for and they mailed me back this morning when they got it in stock. I guess first impressions matter, will likely deal with this dealer from now.

As a business person, I understand that it may be frustrating when customers try to negotiate, but that's part of the process. I was just unhappy with the angry - all cap - reply I got. A more professional "Sorry, our prices are firm" would have done. They lost a potential customer.
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Dec 30, 1969
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Westmount, QC
What will you buy if you want to buy 1 oz gold :

- 1 oz gold bar RCM 1655 CAD (when you sell to dealers they will give spot, best option ?)
- 1 oz gold kangarro 2017 1672 CAD (when you want to sell no much lovers, so it will go for spot to a dealer ?)
- 1 oz gold griffin or dragon of wales 1694 CAD (to continue the collection as I have already the lion, but it will cost 20k for the 12 animals, better to stay with 1/4 oz for the collection about 6 k)
- 1 oz gold lion 1710 CAD the most expensive (add more lions and speculate that the first coin will increase like the wolf. But when it comes to selling if its not ebay where to find this collector that will pay the extra premium and how much time it will take ? And its too sad to go to a dealer for spot ?)

Thanks for you answears !
for sale : koala 2011 & monkey 2016 (39 CAD each) + shipping
kookaburra 2013, 2014 & koala 2012 (37 CAD each) + shipping
Many other bullion coins (pandas,kooks, lunars,....) and bars contact if you want the link
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Silvercoin wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:16 pm
What will you buy if you want to buy 1 oz gold :

- 1 oz gold bar RCM 1655 CAD (when you sell to dealers they will give spot, best option ?)
- 1 oz gold kangarro 2017 1672 CAD (when you want to sell no much lovers, so it will go for spot to a dealer ?)
- 1 oz gold griffin or dragon of wales 1694 CAD (to continue the collection as I have already the lion, but it will cost 20k for the 12 animals, better to stay with 1/4 oz for the collection about 6 k)
- 1 oz gold lion 1710 CAD the most expensive (add more lions and speculate that the first coin will increase like the wolf. But when it comes to selling if its not ebay where to find this collector that will pay the extra premium and how much time it will take ? And its too sad to go to a dealer for spot ?)

Thanks for you answears !
For me it would be the RCM bar. If we were talking Silver, I would do the lion, but i think at 20K for a full collection in gold, your market will be more limited to sell later. More generally speaking about PMs, I would rather buy silver right now because of its price relative to gold.
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bloodrush89 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 11:48 am
but this would have been my first order with them.
This may be part of the issue. They seem to have a bit of an 'indoctrination' process with new customers. Perhaps you would have got a better reception if you were an existing customer. (or maybe not).

I'm in the middle of my first order with them myself. So far, our only interaction (an email) was polite. OTOH, there doesn't appear to be a strong sense of urgency in completing orders either (I used PayPal as this would be the easiest and quickest way to get past my first transaction restrictions). While GoldSiverBull has completed and delivered two orders to me (from 3000 km away), my order with BullionPeople (about 15 km away), placed at the same time as GoldSlverBull, is still 'processing'. Not a complaint as their terms are clearly printed on the site, just an observation.
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RolandCouch wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:21 pm
For me it would be the RCM bar. If we were talking Silver, I would do the lion, but i think at 20K for a full collection in gold, your market will be more limited to sell later. More generally speaking about PMs, I would rather buy silver right now because of its price relative to gold.
I stop buying silver. I continue only my perth, panda and england animals collection. And thinking about selling the rest of my stack
After what happens in fort mcmurray and what is happenning now in the world. I start thinking how I will manage to transport more than 70 kg of silver. But one or two kilo gold i will throw it in my backpack and escape, run, take a plane to another continent ... :)
for sale : koala 2011 & monkey 2016 (39 CAD each) + shipping
kookaburra 2013, 2014 & koala 2012 (37 CAD each) + shipping
Many other bullion coins (pandas,kooks, lunars,....) and bars contact if you want the link
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Jun 26, 2011
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PortCreditGuy wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:29 pm
This may be part of the issue. They seem to have a bit of an 'indoctrination' process with new customers. Perhaps you would have got a better reception if you were an existing customer. (or maybe not).

I'm in the middle of my first order with them myself. So far, our only interaction (an email) was polite. OTOH, there doesn't appear to be a strong sense of urgency in completing orders either (I used PayPal as this would be the easiest and quickest way to get past my first transaction restrictions). While GoldSiverBull has completed and delivered two orders to me (from 3000 km away), my order with BullionPeople (about 15 km away), placed at the same time as GoldSlverBull, is still 'processing'. Not a complaint as their terms are clearly printed on the site, just an observation.
Never realized where TBP were located till now. Do they do in person orders/cash and carry?
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Westmount, QC
PortCreditGuy wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:29 pm
This may be part of the issue. They seem to have a bit of an 'indoctrination' process with new customers. Perhaps you would have got a better reception if you were an existing customer. (or maybe not).

I'm in the middle of my first order with them myself. So far, our only interaction (an email) was polite. OTOH, there doesn't appear to be a strong sense of urgency in completing orders either (I used PayPal as this would be the easiest and quickest way to get past my first transaction restrictions). While GoldSiverBull has completed and delivered two orders to me (from 3000 km away), my order with BullionPeople (about 15 km away), placed at the same time as GoldSlverBull, is still 'processing'. Not a complaint as their terms are clearly printed on the site, just an observation.
I wrote to them 4 or 5 months they answear only one question and after ignore my emails. Until some members here asked me to contact them by phone. I was not trying to discuss the price but only if I can use e transfer. But after the call they accept e transfer as first time order and they told they will hold the order 10 days. After, 10 days I receive my package.
for sale : koala 2011 & monkey 2016 (39 CAD each) + shipping
kookaburra 2013, 2014 & koala 2012 (37 CAD each) + shipping
Many other bullion coins (pandas,kooks, lunars,....) and bars contact if you want the link
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Feb 27, 2013
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Just in case anyone is looking for the 50th Anniversary 1oz Gold Krugerrand bullion - JMB have a good deal at US$49.99 above spot.
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RolandCouch wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:34 pm
Do they do in person orders/cash and carry?
LOL - that was the exact question I asked them by email. Got a polite 'No'. Their walk-in location is for receiving bullion from sellers or payment drop-off. No pickups.
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Silvercoin wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 12:38 pm
some members here asked me to contact them by phone.
I phoned their 416 number and got a message saying to email them. Face With Stuck-out Tongue And Tightly-closed Eyes
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PortCreditGuy wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 1:10 pm
LOL - that was the exact question I asked them by email. Got a polite 'No'. Their walk-in location is for receiving bullion from sellers or payment drop-off. No pickups.
I won't ever order from them in that case. Even if it is cheaper than dealers like SGB. After seeing the PMH, Tulving, NWTM, etc...I stay away from places that I can't pick up, with a few exceptions that I already have a history with.
Jr. Member
Dec 30, 1969
154 posts
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Westmount, QC
SGB is selling this coin
1.5 oz 2017 Canadian Grizzly Bear Silver Coin
20 $ more than the market price and people order it ! When you are the number one you can .... people and they are happy !
for sale : koala 2011 & monkey 2016 (39 CAD each) + shipping
kookaburra 2013, 2014 & koala 2012 (37 CAD each) + shipping
Many other bullion coins (pandas,kooks, lunars,....) and bars contact if you want the link
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RolandCouch wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 1:21 pm
I won't ever order from them in that case. Even if it is cheaper than dealers like SGB. After seeing the PMH, Tulving, NWTM, etc...I stay away from places that I can't pick up, with a few exceptions that I already have a history with.
I would only order from them using credit card. That way you have that added layer of protection in case they don't honour their end of the deal.
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Feb 8, 2017
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Nice spike for gold and silver over the last couple hours. ~$18 for gold and ~.35 for silver. Bought 40oz of silver just before the spike, not from TBP :p
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Jun 26, 2011
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bloodrush89 wrote:
Mar 15th, 2017 3:08 pm
Nice spike for gold and silver over the last couple hours. ~$18 for gold and ~.35 for silver. Bought 40oz of silver just before the spike, not from TBP :p
yup...lots of ppl seems were expecting Gold to go down further with the hike, but perhaps it was already priced in?
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