I would say WP7 if you look at the timeline is actually better than Android/iOS in terms of progress. Mango being the second revision is already better than iOS or Android at that stage.
At this moment, they are not a challenger but wait for W8 which will be out soon and Nokia is still at the early stage of converting to WP. Don't rule them out so fast.
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I could go on at length as to why I feel Android is better and technical stuff but this is not the place for that. Windows Phone is a useable OS with some problems. I am probably one of the 'geekier' phone users and I don't like the phone OS limiting me. Android doesn't, Windows Phone does.
Getting back on topic, it's kind of hard to recommend this Lumia at this price when it lacks hotspot abilities and it's unclear if and when it will be getting it.
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I prefer Android due to rooting, autoproxy and a host of technical reasons. In terms of UI and useability I think Android and WP7 are equal.
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$599 seems too high, I'd expect that price for the 900 (whenever it's released, but it's $99 on AT&T on a 2 year contract). Assuming the reports of $250 being correct for the 710 (which I kind of doubt, there has been no confirmation from Rogers. This thing costs 270 euros, which is closer to $350) the 800 is only 420 euro, $550. It might be as low as $400 or $450 if the 710 price is correct.
The phones aren't that different either, the 800 has a better camera, better build, better screen (but the same size), better battery. Same processor/gpu/communications stuff. There couldn't be more than an extra $100 worth ofh hardware in there, which normally results in $200 added to the price. The 900 on the other hand has a bigger screen, second camera, bigger battery and NFC.
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Jan 28th, 2012 10:47 PM #56
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Those looking for advice on the OS. I have used all three -- well 4 prominent smartphone operating systems (iOS, Android, Windows Phone and WebOS). Of the 4 Windows Phone feels most like 'the future'. It is simple in the same way that iOS is simple, yet generally more flexible than iOS. The problem -- and it is a big one -- is the lack of applications. This is compounded by inane OS updates that in some instances provide features to phones on some carriers and not others (e.g., the LG quantum 7 does not have wifi hotspot on Bell, while the Australian firmware does). If you are not interested in tweaking your phone, you want a smooth smartphone experience and you do not want an iPhone then Windows Phones are great. The Lumia 710 at $250 is a great price too. Although I suspect you will be able to get better Windows Phones from the previous generation (e.g., Samsung Focus) for $250 or less in the near future anyways.
Jan 28th, 2012 10:52 PM #57
There are lots of reasonably priced data plan for this kind of usage. Bell's iPad plan for example is 35 for 5GB which is more than enough for this kind of thing, I am not going to stream 1080p porn 24/7 :-). And even I do, there is the SO UMB.
Jan 28th, 2012 10:57 PM #58
Our late Job's 'my way or no way' to Bill's 'we have all your need but you would need to spend a bit of time to adopt' to the Linux world where you have zillion's of X window desktop to choose from but all have rough edges here and there.
Jan 28th, 2012 10:58 PM #59
It hasn't been officially announced, but I'm expecting that Windows Phone 8 will launch aside Windows 8 and I expect that will be in Q4 2012.
Will any of these current Mango phones get updates to WP8? It's unknown but my guess is 'No.'
Microsoft likes to keep the carriers happy and the carriers like to force people to buy new phones.
Jan 28th, 2012 10:59 PM #60
Microsoft learned a valuable lesson with Windows Mobile. They had the most marketshare in 2006 and 2007 but they didn't own the experience. It was an open OS and everyone was skinning it, tweaking it, loading their os with bloatware, putting it on phones with sub par specs... Things go wrong, people blame microsoft, not HTC or Samsung who skin the crap out of the phone and tried adding features which weren't supposed to work.
Microsoft also realized that they can not maximize revenue out of Windows Mobile as that ecosystem was too broken and fragmented to compete with iphone. Hence they had to essentially restart from scratch with Windows Phone 7. Android will be in this position in a few years form now... I mean, look at Amazon Kindle Fire. Best selling android tablet and not a single google product or service is on it. It has Bing search, Amazon marketplace. Google will seriously have to reconsider their strategy if more manufacturers start doing this and cutting them out of the revenue loop.