Is Ryerson really that bad?

[Esoremada]

*EDIT* Sorry, I mistyped and wrote Waterloo instead of Ryerson, I can see that would cause quite some confusion lol. fixed

I'm in grade 12 right now, had a 90% avg in grade 11 and right now I'm floating around 85%. I would like to attend Waterloo or UofT engineering, but I feel like my marks are just too low and I'm not likely to get in, so now I'm considering Ryerson. But looking around online it seems like everyone considers Ryerson a terrible university ? I was under the impression that completing any university engineering program would be likely to get me a job after graduating. I mean, if there are BAD engineering schools now that will leave you looking for work, what are people with 70% high school averages going to be doing?

I wouldn't be making this thread if it was just a few remarks, but people make it seem like Ryerson is the worst university in the province with an engineering course.

Its called Ry High for a reason - They take you in with low grades.

This is a reason why Ryerson Engineers are regarded as bottom of the barrel during hiring process. It is a shame as those who have good grades get look upon negatively and their grades get bell curved.

I'm not even sure Ryerson has an engineering program. If they do they certainly dont have their Iron Ring... York just got theirs last year.

I don't know about beating them up in job fairs, but at Frosh I have watched Skule (UofT Engineers) Frosh travel to Ryerson and taunt them on their own campus. Then we Art-Scis get a turn and everyone comes home happy.

There's a reason why Ryerson is called Rye-High.

lol, for this years frosh week, we went there and yelled "YOU ALREADY FAILED! YOU ALREADY FAILED!" multiple times.

...the *****? Is this what engineering courses are like? I've been on a lot of forums, and only since starting to search the internet for info on universities have I consistently seen such mindblowing disrespectful posts and vicious debates popping up in threads .

Er... EngSci is accredited as a whole, not on a per-option basis, and has been for decades. Every graduate of EngSci from every option, ever, meets the academic requirements of the PEng license. This is something you would know if you were seriously interested in the program and had at least a basic level of reading comprehension. If you actually abandoned EngSci for this reason, we didn't lose out on much.

This is just getting depressing.


What does one do with a mid 80% mark, if Waterloo is rejecting people with 93% averages and Ryerson is accepting people with 63% averages? Should I look in to computer science at UofT or Waterloo instead of engineering? What is McMasters like?

[DTscript]

I went to college, not university, so I can't give you my personal opinion on the experience. But I will say this, it does not matter where you went to school so long as you complete something and get some working experience (Coop) along the way. After your first job, they rarely look at where you went to school. Mind you, an Engineering program is definitely more challenging in a place like Waterloo, but this has nothing to do with your personal success in the future because that depends on your abilities, not where you studied.

As for the people who are laughing at Ryerson. I find it funny that they call it Ry High yet they act like a bunch of kids themselves by going from their so-called elite school just to taunt others. Don't pay attention to idiots and focus on yourself.

[theowne]

I was under the impression that completing any university engineering program would be likely to get me a job after graduating.

Not quite. Completing a university engineering program WITH co-op or internship experience, is what will likely get you a good job after graduating.

I can safely tell you that the the posts you have quoted are essentially hyperbole and don't really reflect reality. The university you attend will, of course, have an effect on how some employers may perceive you, but that effect is relatively small compared to your own personal accomplishments.

Unsurprisingly, getting the highest marks on tests in high school doesn't always translate into success in the professional world.

[havoks]

I know you're asking about Ryerson but I wasn't aware "everyone considers Waterloo a terrible university." It's not outstanding but certainly not "terrible"... I mean, sure there's a high suicide rate in the engineering programs, but...

[windforcexx28]

Where are you finding these posts from... I remember seeing those posts from yrs ago...

Anyways, to keep it short, it doesn't matter where you go.

[Syne]

Don't tell divx that Waterloo is a terrible university. He might cry.

After all, it is the school that gave him a $50,000yr co-op placement.

[BobSaget]

I went to Ryerson for mechanical engineering but switched out to accounting (now in my 4th year) back in 2008. Don't bother going to Ryerson if you are accepted by Waterloo or UofT. The only thing I would recommend Ryerson for is journalism.

[coupondiva2012]

The only thing I would recommend Ryerson for is journalism.

I disagree. I got a diploma and and degree from Ryerson.
I got a degree from U of T.

When interviewing, the Ryerson degree and diploma put me above the other applicants in my field.

Sadly, I regret my U of T degree. It was not worth the money.

The Ryerson diploma and degree improved my entry level salary and raises since then. Even got a raise this year, when other people have their salaries frozen..

OP, you won't lose with Ryerson. But also take advantage of the Career Services department there (4th floor?). They help with resumes and interviewing skills. They videotaped me in mock interviews and give great critical feedback.

[its_mo]

I went to college, not university, so I can't give you my personal opinion on the experience. But I will say this, it does not matter where you went to school so long as you complete something and get some working experience (Coop) along the way. After your first job, they rarely look at where you went to school. Mind you, an Engineering program is definitely more challenging in a place like Waterloo, but this has nothing to do with your personal success in the future because that depends on your abilities, not where you studied.

As for the people who are laughing at Ryerson. I find it funny that they call it Ry High yet they act like a bunch of kids themselves by going from their so-called elite school just to taunt others. Don't pay attention to idiots and focus on yourself.

only things that really matter:

1. work experience
2. who you know

[James_TheVirus]

Ryerson also served me well despite what anyone tells you on here. Like others have said...co-op is critical for finding a decent job when you graduate. If there isn't co-op, then I wouldn't consider it. Almost all of my classmates are in decent paying jobs after attending University. But, it really only matters when you go to enter the workforce. After that, it is all about work experience, and how you interview.

[KevC]

only things that really matter:

1. work experience
2. who you know

And transcript for certain more competitive positions.

[dankup]

What!? You have all those quotes but none of mine that hate on Ryerson!? Damn I don't even know if I should ask why you're saying Waterloo is a "terrible university".

[Zarazakzr]

I went to Ryerson for my undergrad. I didn't find the courses easy at all and I didn't graduate with a high GPA. I did however get a lot of relevant work experience while working closely with profs on their research. I even earned a couple of publishing's, including a primary authorship in a renown journal. I'm at Western now and the graduate level courses I'm taking are a joke in comparison. However, I admit that so far the profs are better at teaching here than at Ryerson.

[Esoremada]

What!? You have all those quotes but none of mine that hate on Ryerson!? Damn I don't even know if I should ask why you're saying Waterloo is a "terrible university".

That was a mistake, I was thinking Ryerson and typed Waterloo for some reason, editted it.

Waterloo is the top engineering school from what I've heard, but I'm not sure if I've got what it takes

[Heero01]

Ryerson... not even once