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Say BYE BYE to illegal LTE nexus 4 users!

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kevinsbane wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 2:44 pm
Yeah. This is a Canadian site whose users are primarily Canadian. So are you just posting for the sake of those AT&T users?
google is not going to release a separate software for canada. if the US nexus gets lte blocked so will canadian nexus.
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Dina_E wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 2:45 pm
google is not going to release a separate software for canada. if the US nexus gets lte blocked so will canadian nexus.
Because, of course, localization never happens.

If it's blocked, it'll be because it's not certified in Canada. Not because of the FCC. And regardless, it won't shut down LTE use on the Nexus 4 via ROMs.
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Jimboski wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 2:54 pm
OP Is obviously a sheep.
Eh?
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Jimboski wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 3:08 pm
Look at OP's thread history, It's either a positive thing for Apple or negative thing for Android/Windows phones. Lol.
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kevinsbane wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 2:52 pm
Because, of course, localization never happens.

If it's blocked, it'll be because it's not certified in Canada. Not because of the FCC. And regardless, it won't shut down LTE use on the Nexus 4 via ROMs.
Why would they create a localized version just for Canadians to use an undocumented, unadvertised, likely unintended feature? If it is blocked it most certainly could be because of the FCC.

It won't block it from people using ROMs (or maybe even rooted devices), but that's not the majority of users, but at least Google has done their part to stop their device from accessing a network it isn't supposed to be on.
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teddyb wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 3:44 pm
Why would they create a localized version just for Canadians to use an undocumented, unadvertised, likely unintended feature? If it is blocked it most certainly could be because of the FCC.

It won't block it from people using ROMs (or maybe even rooted devices), but that's not the majority of users, but at least Google has done their part to stop their device from accessing a network it isn't supposed to be on.
The users who are turning on LTE in the first place are likely the same users who would install a ROM to access it if necessary.
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teddyb wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 3:44 pm
Why would they create a localized version just for Canadians to use an undocumented, unadvertised, likely unintended feature? If it is blocked it most certainly could be because of the FCC.

It won't block it from people using ROMs (or maybe even rooted devices), but that's not the majority of users, but at least Google has done their part to stop their device from accessing a network it isn't supposed to be on.
Conversely, why would Google push out an update for Canadian users if it is not required to do so since no FCC rulings have any jurisdiction in Canada? Waste of resources for Google to do so - unless it is required to do so by Canadian regulators.
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kevinsbane wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 4:01 pm
Conversely, why would Google push out an update for Canadian users if it is not required to do so since no FCC rulings have any jurisdiction in Canada? Waste of resources for Google to do so - unless it is required to do so by Canadian regulators.
Because it is easier for them to treat all Nexus 4 devices the same. They may be able to do an update to version 4.2.2 and only push it to phones located in the US, but to permanently block it in the US while allowing it elsewhere would require Google to maintain 2 separate ROMs. Why would they do that when only for an undocumented feature?
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Guys,

We're looking at 4.2.2 likely with LTE option removed, and some fixes that have been anticipated (lessen the heat issue, buzzing speaker, etc).

Just cross your fingers the removal of "LTE" can easily be recovered post-update by custom ROMs.
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kevinsbane wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 4:01 pm
Conversely, why would Google push out an update for Canadian users if it is not required to do so since no FCC rulings have any jurisdiction in Canada? Waste of resources for Google to do so - unless it is required to do so by Canadian regulators.
It is in Google's best interest not to distribute software that can get them fined by the fcc. It isn't like Americans don't visit Canada, or don't know how to use proxy servers. Google has to act in good faith with the FCC. Sure, third-parties can distribute the offending software, but they aren't owned by Google, hence, not their problem.
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no_username wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 4:38 pm
It is in Google's best interest not to distribute software that can get them fined by the fcc. It isn't like Americans don't visit Canada, or don't know how to use proxy servers. Google has to act in good faith with the FCC. Sure, third-parties can distribute the offending software, but they aren't owned by Google, hence, not their problem.
Granted. But localization differentiation is not something unfathomable. Google wouldn't remove LTE support in Canada because of the FCC - it will remove it because of Canadian regulations. If, for some reason, Google got certification in Canada but not from the FCC, it would do exactly that - remove LTE support in the US and not in Canada.

I just am annoyed by people saying that "it doesn't have FCC certification so it's illegal!" Well, ok. So what? FCC doesn't has jurisdiction in Canada. Say how it doesn't have Industry Canada certification - that actually means something for Canadians. It is almost like saying "Google pulled out of China because Chinese government doesn't approve!" Well, ok. It's interesting, but not necessarily relevant.
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MadFerIt2006 wrote:
Dec 12th, 2012 4:35 pm
Guys,

We're looking at 4.2.2 likely with LTE option removed, and some fixes that have been anticipated (lessen the heat issue, buzzing speaker, etc).

Just cross your fingers the removal of "LTE" can easily be recovered post-update by custom ROMs.
It can. The only way LTE will be blocked on this phone is by something other than software. As long as it's software-controlled, we will always be able to activate it.
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They deactivated the FM radio on the N1, but xda devs proted the desire kernel to make the radio work. As long as there is an Optimus G, we can get back LTE.
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