There are several complicating factors here, and he really should see an employment counsellor to explore all the options. The counsellor's job is to assess the situation, take all of the factors into account, and offer options to help him to reach the the best decision.rachel1496 wrote: ↑Jul 7th, 2016 9:39 pmWe're trying to figure out if applying for SC is right and I have a few questions. I'd love any help or experience anyone has with this.
1) The job search. DH was just laid off 4 weeks ago. If we took 26 weeks he would almost certainly find a job of some kind but it would be part time or peak time so no guarantee of hours and he would have to start at minimum wage. The majority of his experience is management but its rare to get hired outright as a manager in his industry, you have to start at the bottom and move up from there. It's also an incredibly unstable industry (restaurant) and he's been laid off from two restaurants in the last 8 years so there's a good chance if he did get something we would find ourselves back in this position in a few years. The other problem is that he's currently seeing a knee surgeon for a degenerative condition and the doctor has recommended that if we want to avoid surgery he needs to get something that doesn't require standing all day. Would any of that be taken into consideration?
2) Time in the industry. After the last layoff his EI was running out so out of desperation to get something he took a part time overnight maintenance job at Walmart. That is the job he was just laid off from. If they count years in the retail field he's under 3, if they count restaurants he has well over 15. Would the WM job be considered an interim job or is that considered to be his last job?
Questions I would be asking:
1: He was just laid off from Walmart, but was he also laid off from the job before that? If so, I would be taking that as the layoff job. If he worked under 20 hours per week at Walmart, that job can be ignored. In any case, unless he was a maintenance supervisor, it's a NOC D position and so in his case it's an interim job, so again can be ignored. If he was laid off from the earlier position, then his points for duration of unemployment and job-search are counted from the date of the previous layoff, which would be better for him.
2: His time in the same occupation relates to the occupation in which he has spent most time. But this relates to occupations, not industries. What role did he have in restaurants and retail? If he was a restaurant manager for most of his career, then that's the period that is counted, and if it's 7 years or more he gets 3 points.
3: However, that work experience also counts against him in the final category, as a restaurant manager is a NOC A position, so he would have 0 points in that category.
It's still not impossible to get 16 points - that would depend on what his highest level of education is and/or whether his desired occupation is one that requires a licence. Even if he ends up on 14 or 15 points, though, if I were the counsellor I could be looking at submitting the application as an exception given the medical circumstance you cite - he needs to change career for that reason, apart from prevailing labour market conditions in his industry. He'd need medical evidence both for the condition and to demonstrate that he would be fit to work in whatever his chosen occupation is.
But these are just factors related to eligibility and suitability; he'd also have to examine financial feasibility (Second Career financial support is not generous by any means). And, of course, he'd need to research the labour market for his chosen occupation - is he any more likely to find work in that field?
Look for an Employment Ontario agency in your area and book an appointment with an employment counsellor. It commits him to nothing, but will answer a lot of questions.
Hope this helps.