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SEIKI BD-Live Blu-Ray Player BD660 Info/Support Thread

SEIKI BD-Live Blu-Ray Player BD660 Info/Support Thread

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Video Playback
Picture Enhancement: Progressive Scan, Video Upscaling, High Def (720p, 1080i, 1080p)
Compression Formats: H.264, VC-1, MPEG2, MPEG4
Playback Media: BD Profile 2.0, BD-R/RE 2.0, DVD, DVD-Video, DVD+R/+RW, DVD-R/-RW, DivX

Audio Playback
Sound System: Dolby Digital, DTS, Dolby Tru HD, DTS 2.0 + Digital Out
Compression Format: MP3, PCM, Dolby Digital DTS
Playback Media: MP3-CD, CD-R/RW, CD, MP3-DVD

Connectivity
HDMI, USB, Ethernet, Component Video, Composite Video, Coaxial, Optical

Original Seiki thread,
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-seiki ... 60-893497/

Another info thread,
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=127101

EDIT:

NEW BETA? FIRMWARE:, courtesy of PharaohsVizier
http://199.124.60.22/~seikidig/Download ... uction.zip
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How to tell whether you got the old hardware version or the new one (informally called v1 & v2). New is better (and more reliable apparently).
rambokid wrote:
Nov 27th, 2010 5:39 pm
Update:
I opened the second box, the hardwares are different WTF.

FW:BDP-041F3, internal has sata cable. Without open the case, identify with the Optical and Coaxial audio connectors positioned at the left side (looking at the back). This unit WILL NOT read NTFS format!

FW:BDP v4.2F6, custom drive cable. Without open the case, identify with the Optical and Coaxial audio connectors positioned between the HDMI and LAN ports. This unit WILL read NTFS format!

Therefore, FW:BDP-041F3 box is going back to Wally Mart unless someone can confirm the drive is compatible with computer SATA port, but still need a DYI power connector!
rabbit wrote:
Nov 28th, 2010 9:19 pm
> 2) Old hardware, new firmware

People have not been specific regarding this, so it is possible that it is
2) New hardware, old firmware.

Placement of the digital coax audio jack is the telling point of whether it is old/new hardware (without opening up the player).

old = beside the other RCA jacks
new = between HDMI and ethernet port
BuildBuyBreed wrote:
Nov 28th, 2010 11:38 pm
From left to right on my player: RCA, Optical, Composite, HDMI, LAN, USB.

So I got the white/green box, old firmware and old hardware.
White box/purple serial numbers for new hardware?

rabbit wrote:
Nov 27th, 2010 5:14 am
Okay, there is a very simple fix for MKVs that don't play (as least for the ones that I have). As mentioned in other forums, they don't play because of compressed headers.

- download the freeware program: mkvtoolnix (MKV Merge GUI)
http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoo ... loads.html
Windows version is near the bottom of the page -> http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoo ... e-4.4.0.7z
I think the same software is available for other platforms, too.

- un7zip and run MMG.EXE

- IMPORTANT: go to FILE -> OPTIONS. In the MMG pane, check "Disable header removal compression for audio and video tracks by default". Click OKAY.

- Drag the MKV file into the top part of the window. At the bottom, select where and what you want to save the new file as. Click on START MUXING. It doesn't re-encode anything, so it should take no longer than 10min to complete.

DONE. You can also set the default flags for which tracks you want to play, and also give the track names (eg. DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, English HoH ...). Hope this solves your MKV problems.

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BTW, for people with the older firmware, or any player that doesn't recognize NTFS, have you tried formatting your HDD as UDF? XP is SoL, but Vista/7 fully support UDF.
http://serverfault.com/questions/55089/ ... ive-as-udf

Might be an idea for non-Windows OSes as well, since they can't write to NTFS without a third-party tool.

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For anyone with the whitebox/new_firmware, have you tried streaming files via your network? I don't have a wired connection where my TV is, so I haven't tried.

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Thanks to all the contributers in this thread. And big thanks to the dude who first posted that the price this weekend would be $49. :)
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthr ... ost1294878
You can look at the back of the player.

V1 (from L-R):
- coax audio out
- stereo/composite/component RCA out
- HDMI
- ethernet port
- USB

V2 (from L-R)
- stereo/composite/component RCA out
- HDMI
- coax audio out
- ethernet
- USB


or

firmware page (if it hasn't been updated)
V1 = BDP-041F3
V2 = BDP v4.2F6
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-e ... st11946178
chidragon wrote:
Nov 26th, 2010 7:08 pm
Bought a "white" box one today in Alberta, no enviro fee. Some screenshots taken using my super mega elite HDCP-ignoring HDMI capture card. Sorry for big post.

I would not buy this as my only Blu-ray player, and here's why:
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Poor quality chroma upsampling. All DVDs and Blu-rays store colour at 1/4 the resolution of the "luma" or B&W base signal. It's up to the player to upsize the two small colour layers, and this player does a bad job at it, resulting in blocking. I tried all the combinations of output format settings I could and none of them fix it. Of course this is a test pattern. In real-world video you will only see this on saturated reds, if you sit close enough.

Still, loving this for the region free capabilities. It's played everything I've tried including 1080i50 on Blu-ray and 576i PAL DVDs automatically converted to 1080i60, and two discs that my LG BD-ROM drive refuses to read at all (PS3 reads them okay too).

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SETUP - System Information screen. Software version BDP V4.2 F6. Anyone have different?

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The SETUP + 8520 screen showing my firmware revision or whatever. Both region codes are set to 1 initially. I set to Blu-ray code 4 for kicks... "4" is Region C which no one here will use unless you're watching Bollywood releases (nearly all Russian and Asian are AC or ABC).

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Orly?
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Take this...
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Kablam.
DougO wrote:
Feb 14th, 2011 12:29 am
Only MKVs that I had not play were those that were made using Handbrake with the default header compression turned on. Using MKVToolnix and resaving with the header compression turned off fixed that problem. Many of these same files also won't play on media players.
pvd64 wrote:
Feb 6th, 2011 1:28 pm
To those having issues with load times from external harddrives, make sure you have formatted your NTFS drive or partition with the highest possible allocation unit size - ie not the default of 4096 bytes but 64 kilobytes. This has made a world of difference in terms of access times and reading the drive. I have a 1 TB drive that is approximately half full with over 100 video files in various folders. No delay in accessing the files or loading them to view. This is also a 3.5" external drive that is separately powered (AC not USB) and it works absolutely fine. I also have a white box unit with the newest firmware so cannot speak to the previous firmware which I believe does not have NTFS support.
wasteislander wrote:
Feb 4th, 2011 2:34 pm
Hi,

Question: how can I play ISO or VIDEO_TS like a DVD from my external drive on my SEIKI, without burning a DVD?

The player doesn't recognize the ISO file in the file explorer (like VLC does on a PC).

the work-around I did was to extract the ISO to VIDEO_TS folder. Still the player doesn't "load" the folder like VLC does either.

The work-around for that is to select the first media file in the VIDEO_TS folder, but then we lose the top menu function and we get a bit of a skip when the currently played file ends and transitions to the next.
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http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-seiki ... st12003726


http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-seiki ... st11995293
fergy wrote:
Dec 3rd, 2010 10:26 pm
I may have found compatible firmware. Have a look at the manual for this Soniq Blu-Ray player and you can see the firmware is almost identical. http://www.soniqav.com/specs/qpb302b.pdf

The firmware can be downloaded from here: http://www.soniq.com/download/UPG_ALL.zip

Extract UPG_ALL.zip

Copy the extracted UPG_ALL folder to USB flash drive.
Connect SB flash drive to unit.
Switch on unit and go to setup via remote.
Choose System ==> upgrade
Choose USB 1.
Press OK to upgrade.
After upgrade, unit will restart.
Remove USB flash drive.
Go through initial setup procedure (follow onscreen instruction)

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rambokid wrote:
Nov 27th, 2010 5:39 pm
Update:
I opened the second box, the hardwares are different WTF.

FW:BDP-041F3, internal has sata cable. Without open the case, identify with the Optical and Coaxial audio connectors positioned at the left side (looking at the back). This unit WILL NOT read NTFS format!

FW:BDP v4.2F6, custom drive cable. Without open the case, identify with the Optical and Coaxial audio connectors positioned between the HDMI and LAN ports. This unit WILL read NTFS format!

Therefore, FW:BDP-041F3 box is going back to Wally Mart unless someone can confirm the drive is compatible with computer SATA port, but still need a DYI power connector!
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power usage
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-seiki ... st11959426

http://www.seikiworld.com/support_downloads.html

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-seiki ... st11953711

More pix
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/wm-seiki ... st11950824

http://digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=1126188
Ghetto_Child wrote:
Jun 30th, 2010 2:21 pm
Depends on the file encoding standards used really, also the file allocation unit size & file fragmentation might have an effect too since those 2 each effect read performance. I always use the largest file Allocation Unit Size the specific device can support. All the MKV trailers from the DivX website links I posted play through completely (1 exception) with a few trailers like the Iron Man 2 that has the macro blocks for a few frames every 30s-1min (99% perfect in my opinion). The single showcase MKV file from the DivX site that demos what features are in "DivX Plus HD" AVC codec MKV files with AAC/DTS/MP3 audios files works perfect up to I believe the middle of the vid and then the player prompts that the video is an unsupported type lol. I think that showcase MKV loads a 2nd embedded video clip to do a picture in picture type of scene or mock a demo of viewing a vid on a fake tv screen. I havn't tried the 2 550MB MKV clips from that selection yet, the trailers I played are a mix of 720p and 1080p clips btw, I think GIJoe is the only 720p.

I then tested out the vid files given here http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/ under the "Files You Need For Troubleshooting" and I believe most of these are AVC codec files.
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is an MKV clip and does not play at all.
Clannad NCED theme (Dango Daikazoku) is an AVC codec MKV clip, plays smooth really well most scenes have little macro blocks, has dual audio but only DTS audio plays at all and perfectly
Kanon NCOP theme (Last Regret) is an AVC codec MKV clip, plays smooth with regular macro blocks and every couple of seconds the picture snaps to perfect image for about 1 second, has dual audio tracks but only DTS plays and perfectly
Quantum of Solace clip is an MP4 file the audio is AAC, it doesn't support the video but the audio plays perfect without problems.
AIR NCOP theme (Tori no Uta) is an AVC codec MKV clip, plays smooth with lots of constant macro blocks and no audio.
Finally the BBC Planet Earth clip is an MKV file and the video can't play but the audio is perfect and sounds smooth, can't remember what format the sound or video is.

"The Bourne Ultimatum - Trailer.mp4" 1080p trailer I got online played perfect.
The Bourne Ultimatum - Theatrical Trailer readme:
Original Video properties:
Resolution: 1080p (1920x816)
FPS: 23.976 (NTSC)
Video Codec: H.264
Encoding Codec Download: http://www.divx-digest.com/software/x264.html
Playback Codec Download: http://www.divx-digest.com/software/ffdshow.html
Trailer Resolution: 1080p (1920x816)
Audio Codec: AAC LC
Resolution: Stereo, 48 kHz, 96 Kbps
Trailer Size: 80 MB
Converted to H.264 using MeGUI: http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/ ... page1.html
Playback instructions: http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/ ... page1.html
Copyright : 2007, Universal Pictures
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Ghetto_Child wrote:
Nov 24th, 2010 9:11 am
for everyone asking about the blu-ray player I tested out myself it plays divx, xvid, avi, mkv (blu-ray spec & DivX Plus Certified standards), mp4, mpg, dat, wmv, wma, mp3, avchd, jpg filetypes. I think (gif, wav, aac, mov MPEG-4) filetypes too. I have trouble with some anime fansub MKVs and some downloaded HDTV show MKVs. If the vid conforms to blu-ray specs or DivX Plus certification or DivX Plus HD certification it will play fine. Even DTS audio coded MKVs play fine with all the many languages selectable. I tried out a clip of Elephant's Dream with several audio tracks and 8 subtitles all worked fine.

It only reads various FAT versions from maybe FAT12 up to FAT32 no exFAT support and no NTFS support. It can read HDDs and USB flash drives so it should be able to read ANYTHING via the usb port just get a hub or adaptor to run other media. I bet it can even run an HD-DVD drive via usb enclosure/adaptor. I'm really tempted for someone to test that out. It probably can't run an HD-DVD retail movie via usb HD-DVD drive but it should be able to run HD-DVDRips off recordable HD-DVD discs via usb adaptor/enclosure. If you understand what I'm getting at.

Awesome player, glad I bought it back in June/July. Wonder if it can be networked via the LAN port?
Go to the DivX website and look around the site for the sample movie clips they let you download for your testing.
yuprules wrote:
Nov 23rd, 2010 11:19 am
Don't forget, it also has an unlock code so you can play any region dvd and (untested) blu-ray!

Press Setup
8520
You'll see a Factory Page with DVD region, BD Region

Use the up down to change the DVD Region Code and set to 0 for region free.

You can then go down to BD Region Code: The default is A (1), you can choose 2 for B and 4 for C, and 1 for A.
then press on setup again to get out.

I do not have any other region blu-rays to test the blu-ray part, but the dvd region WORKS.
bangi wrote:
Jun 13th, 2010 8:00 am
phoinikos wrote:
Jun 7th, 2010 4:53 pm
hey guys,

I have been playing all day with this device and I have opened the case. It has a SATA Mediatek BD Player, a Mediatek 8520 Main Board, and a power board. The device is very similar to Philips BDP3000 player. and the Good news is that I have found the region unlock, it's same as the philips.

Power the player with no disk loaded. then press

setup >> 8520 now you should get the "Factory Page" with version, loader, DVD region, BD Region and Reset Password info.

using the up/down key go to "DVD Region Code" and set to "0" for region free.
then go down to "BD Region Code": it's set to A, you can choose 2 for B and 4 for C, and 1 for A.
then press on setup again.

I tested with a DVD after I set to 2, and it would give a region error. then I set to 0 and all is well. I don't think the BD have a region free code....
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I tried this hack, it works. It can play DVD Pal (region 2). Thanks :D
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Great work davesnothere. Very helpful.
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Can someone tell me what the ethernet port is for. I have been testing the Sony BDP-S370 and Samsung BD-C5500 and both of them have network port and can play various net apps e.g. Youtube. For the Seiki, I couldn't find anything that would use the network port. Not that I find the Youtube or other apps to be convenient on the TV but I'm still wondering what they use the port for?
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padenom wrote:
Jan 3rd, 2011 10:41 pm
Can someone tell me what the ethernet port is for. I have been testing the Sony BDP-S370 and Samsung BD-C5500 and both of them have network port and can play various net apps e.g. Youtube. For the Seiki, I couldn't find anything that would use the network port. Not that I find the Youtube or other apps to be convenient on the TV but I'm still wondering what they use the port for?

BD-Live content would be my first guess....
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Repooc wrote:
Jan 3rd, 2011 11:45 pm
BD-Live content would be my first guess....

That's what they WANT us to think.

In reality, it's so that Big Brother (Sony) can track our viewing habits. :razz:

(Or should that be :cry: ?)
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thx for this thread. waiting for the next sale $49...
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Yes, for all the warts, the little player did good. So I can't watch Netflix Canada...big deal! I already have 7,000 videotapes and over 2,000 burned or bought DVDs with DVD content or avi files on them. Never going to ever be at a loss to watch something. That's not why I bought this player anyway. It is great for out of region discs as well as file playback without having to shell out the stiff price on a Western Digital or other media player. Can't wait for the next sale which may come sooner than later as the local Wally just got another skid of the players in the past week. These make great gifts for friends in the states as the companies there that were selling similar players have been mostly hounded out of business by the powers that be (Hollywood). For $50 -$80 you can't go far wrong...
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I'm having difficulty getting sound out of my BD660 when I encode OTA (1080i) movies to H264 or Xvid. I've tried various combinations of AC3 and AAC to avi and mp4 containers with no luck. Oddly enough, my MP4 effort of H264 and AC3 won't play on the BD660 even though Windows Media player has no problem. Any suggestions.

So far, I've tried H264+AAC+MP4, xvid+ac3+avi, xvid+aac+mp4, ...
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Hi,

I have tried this player with different USB external hard drives, and I find that the access to movies, etc. is unbearably slow. For example, I have ONLY 2 mkv files plus subtitles and it takes between 5 and 10 minutes until the navigation menu shows up. I can see the disk light blink a lot, though. The disks are NTFS formatted, that's not a problem apparently because eventually I can access the files and play the movies, but as I said it's extremely slow. How's your experience with this? Can it be that I just got a bad unit or is the long wait normal?

Thanks!
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