Many newer cars already incorporate neutral idle as a feature
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Mar 7th, 2015 7:55 am
Many newer cars already incorporate neutral idle as a feature
Mar 7th, 2015 7:59 am
Had to press brake to go to and from P. But not from N to D.Inclemental wrote: ↑Doesnt the new audi has shift lock? I had a 05 a6. Every time coming out from a car wash, i have to press the brake to disengage the shift lock in order to shift from neutral to drive. Same as my cousin's vw GTI. The pedal light on dash will tell u to press the brake.
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Actually most hypermilers will suggest coasting in neutral. Coasting in gear is using engine braking, it slows you down a lot faster than coasting in neutral, so you have to get back onto the gas faster. You generally don't want to use engine braking unless you actually want to slow down.
Mar 7th, 2015 10:14 am
i wouldnt say most . but there is a percentage of german cars where this is true...i have dealt with virtuously every car out there and i can say this as fact..i know as some vw's had a bad brake light switch and would not let you shift from park,,or from neutral...this i have experienced in over 10 different vw's
Mar 7th, 2015 10:16 am
...lolgotrice111 wrote: ↑you're straying off topic somewhat, but to address your point, are you actually saying you would rather use your engine to brake rather than your brakes(the things that were actually put on your car to stop the car)?
What would you rather wear down, your engine or your brakes?
What's more expensive? engine or brake pads/rotors?
Mar 7th, 2015 10:33 am
wow, you are really reaching there. nice try buddy.
Mar 7th, 2015 10:40 am
A good driver will take their foot off the accelerator pedal as it approaches a traffic light and let the vehicle speed slow enough before applying their brakes. I never contended not to use the brakes.Bud, I have been driving cars for more than 30 years including tractor trailers. If you would like to put your driving experience to test..just tell me where and let's see.gotrice111 wrote: ↑wow, you are really reaching there. nice try buddy.
I just find it hilarious that you are here advocating not using your brakes to stop, even though that's the only reason they were put on the car.
What's next? Are you going to tell ppl to cut a hole in the bottom of the cars and stop their cars with their feet like the flintstones? because using your brakes will wear them out, and that's a big no no.
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eldiablo wrote: ↑A good driver will take their foot off the accelerator pedal as it approaches a traffic light and let the vehicle speed slow enough before applying their brakes. I never contended not to use the brakes.Bud, I have been driving cars for more than 30 years including tractor trailers. If you would like to put your driving experience to test..just tell me where and let's see.
Do you always have conversations with yourself to convince yourself that you won?
Mar 7th, 2015 12:25 pm
.... I transfer the acceleration of my car through my mechanical/hydraulic system too. Maybe I'll stop accelerating (?). :Peldiablo wrote: ↑You are transferring the momentum of the vehicle from the engine braking to your mechanical/hydraulic system. It will exacerbate in wear rate of your rotors/pads +shoes/drums. I seriously doubt that you would actually see any fuel savings compared to additional wear on the brake components.
Mar 7th, 2015 1:30 pm
Huh? Explain what you are saying. If you are saying they pass through neutral when shifting, well, sort of, but the clutch is depressed so it is not exactly the same.
None of what you say makes sense.joejoem wrote: ↑
in most cases, shifting into neutral actually cost you more fuel.
when you are in neutral, the engine pumps fuel to keep your car idling at 800~rpm
when you are coasting in gear, your car actually doesn't consume ANY gas at all
Facepalm because it is DANGEROUS to shift into neutral when you are moving, especially with an auto.
most auto require you to step on the brake to shift from N back to D, this makes it very dangerous if something happens and you need to accelerate out of harm's way.
Please explain that to me. Why is there a 1990 cut off for saving fuel when in neutral? I don't think neutral and idles has changed since 1990.
Mar 7th, 2015 1:41 pm
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Higher Rpm does mean more gas consumed, put your car in neutral and see how many liters per hour are used at 3000rpm vs idle. Most of the fuel is used to spin the engine. That said like you mentioned in gear the car if designed should have a fuel cutoff since the engine is kept spinning by the road/tires.Avatar wrote: ↑Don't know why ppl keep thinking higher rpm means consuming fuel. Car is using the same amount of fuel as idling IF you don't depress the gas pedal. Has NOTHING to do with the RPM which is simply following the matching speed of the car when no fuel is delievered. You put it to N and rpm reduced simply because the engine has been disengaged from the wheel. You put it back to D and it will go up. RPM doesn't related to fuel saving IF the gas pedal is NOT depressed. My car has an instant gas consumption display. I got 2.0L/100km when I release the accelerator although the car still in gear.
However coasting at D does save you some braking distance (brake pad) as you are using the slower engine to slow down the wheeeels hence engine braking (more efficient in manual).
I wouldn't recommend shifting to N for auto. You will save more gas by gradually accelerate/decelerate.
Mar 7th, 2015 4:01 pm
Only when the other side is spewing BS.gotrice111 wrote: ↑Do you always have conversations with yourself to convince yourself that you won?
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