Shortcuts into Universities?

[flatsoled604]

I know one way of going into business is going into arts..
does that apply for other things?
because arts requiremets are much less

[Tofu Drift Shinji]

I know one way of going into business is going into arts..
does that apply for other things?
because arts requiremets are much less

That may work to some extent. You might be able to get into commerce from an Arts program, but if there are certain course requirements that you can't make because you aren't allowed to sign up (because you're not enrolled in commerce), then you're SOL. This largely depends on how the university you plan on going to works. At U of T, you declare after your first year, and, theoretically speaking, it could work. However, because I'm not a commerce student, I'm not much of an authority on this matter in particular.

Furthermore, it's probably not just a walk in the park getting into a commerce program. If you're just hanging on in high school, and you want the "shortcut" into commerce at a university, you may want to rethink whether your attitude makes you capable of getting into commerce at all.

But, really, here is the easiest way.

(I jest)

[royal]

thnx op didnt know this.. i was hoping to go into business.. but dont really have the grades.. maybe now i will ..

[Drew_W]

If you're hanging by a thread in high school, I'd consider that your mentality will need to change if you have any hope of even getting through first year. They don't give you your money back if you fail.

[UrbanPoet]

that sorta works... unless you realize you need an 80% average in your program and you think "oh ****.. arts is easy but it isnt THAT easy..."
Plus you need to somehow fill the math/science requirements depending on what program you want to get into.

another way is by joining as a "mature student". However... there are still vigerous testing for math and language.

[royal]

If you're hanging by a thread in high school, I'd consider that your mentality will need to change if you have any hope of even getting through first year. They don't give you your money back if you fail.

jsut no more mis -understandign.. i not hanging by a thread.. my makrs a re altough okay.. 80% avg .. but still.. i would like to thank the op for leetin ppl like me who didnt know .. that we still have a chance if u dont get accepted for some reason.

[rborek]

Transferring into Arts programs is an easy manoeuvre (with some exceptions for specialized arts programs, ie journalism)... but transferring out of an Arts program is very hard, especially into Business. There are no easy shortcuts or ways of getting around the system in university - rules, especially revolving around transfers, required credits, required GPAs, etc. are very rigid.

[kappamaki]

At SFU?

Go through Techone, 70% was the cut off entrance for high school students for fall 2006. Then apply to the Bus program.

Or just take college level courses and do a transfer. All you need is a 3.0 GPA.

[pandaharo]

There are no shortcuts for a real degree in a good university. To get into business/Comm from arts require a high GPA. The easiest way is to get good marks in Highschool, where the workload is very light and very easy. It's very common for student's average to drop by 10-15% after entering university.

[koft]

Wow.. Shortcut into Comm/BBA program? Unless you are not looking at Schulich, Ivey, Rothman, Queen's. It is possible, however, if you are looking at those school.. Good luck trying to transfer from an Arts program after 1st year (2nd year for Ivey) undergrad without delaying your year of graduation. For Schulich transfer, you basically need a good reference and high GPA (likely a 3.9 - 4.0), and prey that someone in 1st year fail out!, Queen's to transfer to Commerce, I know you need at least a mid-80's average in 1st year to do so, (because I have friends that did it).. Ivey is pain in the butt, because you need to be on exec of a club, etc. to be considered. Know nothing about UT downtown Commerce.

[knapper]

Depending on how many people accept offers there are sometimes spots available in September. A guy in my civ engineering class at UofW did not at first get accepted to engineering, but was offered Science. He accepted that and during frosh week went to speak to someone at the undergrad office. There was space available, he had good math marks, and they transfered him.

[adehbone]

thats cause the UW RO sucks.....my roommate did the same, got rejected from civil...made some calls...got in and now 2 yrs lately hes coasting through the program....the admissions ppl really suck sometimes...always good to ask why you got rejected

I would seriously think this through....alot of ppl want to go into Business and the bigtime schools but dont have the drive or disclipne for it.......unless your avg is below 80%, you can still get into a good econ or bba program at some university...and if you really cant get 80% in grade 12....i dont know how you think you can get 95 and transfer in after first yr......

on the other hand if you get into WLU econ, UTSC non management, UT econ, etc......first yr business is very easy and broad...you can easily acheive 90% if you are motivated to.....micro/macro are easy, a somewhat tough calc courses....and a bunch of theory courses

so consider all the risks and your options

[coolspot]

On the bright side... I don't think undergraduate business programs really make much different in terms of career advancement. There are caveats, investment banking, consulting, etc may opt for graduates from certain programs. But otherwise... I don't think employers really care that much - an undergraduate business student doesn't really know that much afterall If you get into a decent program your chances of success are probably relatively similar to those from the top schools.

That being said opt for a university program if possible ... if you goto college your future options will be severely limited (i.e. graduate school, promotions, social stigma, etc).

Unlike other sectors - business is a slow and steady climb ... so as long as you prove yourself once you graduate, your undergraduate doesn't mean much.

You can always make up for your degree in the future with designations (CMA, CA, etc) or a flashy MBA from a name-brand school

[Audiogenic]

If you are in the GTA and can fastrack a college program, Rye High (Ryerson) will admit you into year 3 of a 4 year degree program.

[xwar]

There are no shortcuts for a real degree in a good university. To get into business/Comm from arts require a high GPA. The easiest way is to get good marks in Highschool, where the workload is very light and very easy. It's very common for student's average to drop by 10-15% after entering university.

Agreed.