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Should I buy a windows 7 or 8?

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WhatsTheRush wrote:
Feb 8th, 2014 6:19 pm
Make sure there are drivers available for all your components....or your comp may run pretty bad with a new OS (overheat, glitchy, etc...).

P.S. Windows 7 is free if you use the Daz Boot loader....
I discovered you can reuse a key off an old dead PC on a new one also (not that this is an option for the OP).

A lot of the pre-built's come with an OEM version that ties to the motherboard/parts when you first validate, so when it comes to validate the key on a new machine it won't go through.

But you can call MS and explain you're repairing/upgrading the original PC when you're attempting to do this, as long as the key is only going to be used on 1 PC they let you do it. Apparently half the time you just get an automated service when you call, and as long as you answer a certain question by saying "one" (PC) it will spit out a new key for you.

This was last posted about in 2013 when I was checking into it earlier.

Good news for me though, I'm in that situation now if my new PC order ships, going to need that OS a d already spent the budget for it.


FYI full retail discs of windows can be downloaded legally (search digital river) but you still need to get a legit key. I have it loaded up on a USB boot drive right now with the old PC key and waiting impatiently lol.
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toomuchpie wrote:
Feb 8th, 2014 8:30 pm
Apparently I'm computer illiterate because Windows 8 is confusing to me. The user interface is soooo bad. I hate when I have to remote into someone's computer when they have Windows 8 installed. Even if you install startisback, like you suggested, it's not the only problem I have with the interface.

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So... ribbon and wording... hardcore fail IMO. Ribbon takes up too much space for a bunch functions that are basically a one time setting according to your preferences. Or things like copy/paste which most people know shortcuts to. Even if they didn't know the shortcut, a right click and selecting from the context menu would likely be faster due to the shorter distance of mouse movement.

And wording.... oh boy... 'Hidden items'??? What is that supposed to mean? Does it delete 'Hidden items'? Show them? Hide them? I know the answer is 'show' but that's just a very poor wording choice. It doesn't tell you what it actually does; it just lists something there in the options. They may as well put an option up there that says 'Water' if we're just listing random things.

Windows 8 might be right for some people and Windows 7 may be better for others, it's all about your preference. I prefer a good interface that doesn't frustrate me and slow down my own efficiency. For myself, that's Windows 7. Some people like to group their programs in the taskbar. I do not because it doesn't make sense to me to add more steps to see and/or open a specific window. But again, it all comes down to preference. Grouping programs might seem cleaner and help other people's efficiency, although it objectively takes more steps to get to the window that you want.
If you don't know how to use Windows 8, should shouldn't be allow to use Windows 7. Windows 8 was created for people like you. If you don't know what the heck is "Hidden Items or File Name Extension" is how will you know where to look for it in Windows 7 in the first place?

Anyway Ribbons are there mostly for Touch Tablet. The ribbons only show up when you click on it and goes away when you click away from it or you can minimized it so I don't know what you are whining about.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, Windows 8 is BETTER on a desktop than a tablet. I have Windows 8 on a HTPC, workstation and tablet, and it's by FAR the worst on a tablet.

Most people that say you need a touchscreen for Windows 8 just don't know what the hell they are talking about.
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Actually Windows 8 "DESKTOP" was never really meant to be use on a tablet. The touch part is mainly for the start screen. Microsoft really need to go back to the drawing board and make it more seamless because as a PC desktop user the start screen is fine but as a tablet user the touch Start Screen is what is meant for but become a total mess when you switch over to desktop.
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LEXX911 wrote:
Feb 8th, 2014 10:36 pm
If you don't know how to use Windows 8, should shouldn't be allow to use Windows 7. Windows 8 was created for people like you. If you don't know what the heck is "Hidden Items or File Name Extension" is how will you know where to look for it in Windows 7 in the first place?

Anyway Ribbons are there mostly for Touch Tablet. The ribbons only show up when you click on it and goes away when you click away from it or you can minimized it so I don't know what you are whining about.
Lol... Windows 8 is definitely not designed for people like me, who like user-friendly interfaces and are familiar with many shortcuts already. I know where it is because it's been there forever in past versions of Windows. Here is an example of good design:

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Notice how those the text beside the checkboxes and radio buttons actually TELL you what checking the checkbox or selecting the radio button will do (it's Windows 7 btw)? Have you ever written a program, or designed anything that users are supposed to interact with? Or hell, just designed anything at all. It's a principle of good design to make things clear and obvious. That's why when you see good code, there are clear, obvious variable names and comments that explain exactly what's going on. BTW this isn't just some programming principle, but as I stated earlier, a principle of good design. Windows 8 is a complete design fail in my eyes. Things are complicated, not clear and hinder understanding and efficiency. If it looks good to you, and you find it helps your efficiency, good for you. But I've shown examples of Windows 8's bad design and all you've shown is that you can insult people without being informed.

Lastly, I acknowledge that it can be minimized, but in my experience on a few desktop computers running Windows 8, the ribbon most certainly does not "only show up when you click on it and goes away when you click away from it". Also, I read an article somewhere that if you minimize it, it will restore itself upon a reboot. And of course you can install something to get rid of the ribbon but the point I was making is that Windows 8 was poorly designed, period.
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Lol... Windows 8 is definitely not designed for people like me, who like user-friendly interfaces and are familiar with many shortcuts already. I know where it is because it's been there forever in past versions of Windows. Here is an example of good design:

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Notice how those the text beside the checkboxes and radio buttons actually TELL you what checking the checkbox or selecting the radio button will do (it's Windows 7 btw)? Have you ever written a program, or designed anything that users are supposed to interact with? Or hell, just designed anything at all. It's a principle of good design to make things clear and obvious. That's why when you see good code, there are clear, obvious variable names and comments that explain exactly what's going on. BTW this isn't just some programming principle, but as I stated earlier, a principle of good design. Windows 8 is a complete design fail in my eyes. Things are complicated, not clear and hinder understanding and efficiency. If it looks good to you, and you find it helps your efficiency, good for you. But I've shown examples of Windows 8's bad design and all you've shown is that you can insult people without being informed.

Lastly, I acknowledge that it can be minimized, but in my experience on a few desktop computers running Windows 8, the ribbon most certainly does not "only show up when you click on it and goes away when you click away from it". Also, I read an article somewhere that if you minimize it, it will restore itself upon a reboot. And of course you can install something to get rid of the ribbon but the point I was making is that Windows 8 was poorly designed, period.
How is it a bad design? It's given people more options so that they don't need to go messing with other options inside that Folder in Control Panel. I don't know what the hell you are blabbing about because Windows 8 still have all that stuff under COntrol Panel if you want to use it. "Also, I read an article somewhere that if you minimize it, it will restore itself upon a reboot". I don't see it's happening here. Maybe try and use it instead of letting others decide for you. Windows 7 is exactly like Windows 8 on desktop. Explain to me how Windows 8 on desktop is any less efficient than Windows 7 and how is it stopping you from doing your normal regular stuff? How exactly does it slow you down? Seriously stop prejudging it if you haven't been using it and stop reading or following others on the bang wagon of bashing Windows 8 just because of the Start Screen or the missing Start button.
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It's bad design by unclear options due to poor wording... Are you selectively reading only what you want to see to in order win an argument? What I read about minimizing the ribbon may be untrue, but I have in fact used Windows 8 on a few occasions. It's just that I hated it every time I used it and would never install it on any of my own computers. I didn't jump on any bandwagon. I formed my own opinion of Windows 8 after using it. You would have known that I used Windows 8 if you weren't selectively reading only what you wanted to see.

Edit: Also, I don't know what prejudice you're talking about. I stated earlier that Windows 8 is right for some people, but not for me. I'm not forcing anyone to not use it. I simply showed how poorly designed I personally thought it was after experiencing it for myself.
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you know what i like about windows 8.1??? skydrive is integrated into windows. in windows 7, i would download wallpapers from interfacelift.com.....if i wanted those wallpapers on another pc at home.....id either re-download them.....copy from a device like a flash drive and paste...or make sure the folder was being shared on the home network......in windows 8.1 i just save to my skydrive when ot asks me where i want to download.
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Win 8.1, why you ask? Extended support, faster, everything win 7 has, metro can be disabled. How is this even an argument? If you disable metro and have classic start it's practically win 7.
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toomuchpie wrote:
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It's bad design by unclear options due to poor wording... Are you selectively reading only what you want to see to in order win an argument? What I read about minimizing the ribbon may be untrue, but I have in fact used Windows 8 on a few occasions. It's just that I hated it every time I used it and would never install it on any of my own computers. I didn't jump on any bandwagon. I formed my own opinion of Windows 8 after using it. You would have known that I used Windows 8 if you weren't selectively reading only what you wanted to see.

Edit: Also, I don't know what prejudice you're talking about. I stated earlier that Windows 8 is right for some people, but not for me. I'm not forcing anyone to not use it. I simply showed how poorly designed I personally thought it was after experiencing it for myself.
Windows 8 is clearly not for you, even if it's the best OS ever. It might be perfectly good for some other people, even if it's worst OS ever . I am not sure why you guys bother arguing about personal preferences?
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Feb 8th, 2014 10:12 am
Thinking about upgrading from windows xp to either 7 or 8. Which do you all think is better? I like to game and browse mainly.
I found a site like this http://windows8online.net/
Do you all know if this is legit or not?
Coming from Windows XP, I would upgrade to Windows 8 directly. Despite what some people say, Windows 7 actually changed a lot from Windows XP (as was Windows XP from Windows 2000). I still remember hating Windows XP and switching to Classic theme all the time.

Might as well jump to the latest version. It takes some getting used to, but the improvements easily outweigh the initial learning curve (which is not a lot to begin with). Install a third party start menu if you have to, but I never found the needs to.
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toomuchpie wrote:
Feb 8th, 2014 8:30 pm
Apparently I'm computer illiterate because Windows 8 is confusing to me. The user interface is soooo bad. I hate when I have to remote into someone's computer when they have Windows 8 installed. Even if you install startisback, like you suggested, it's not the only problem I have with the interface.
There are 2 camps. Ones who live by the File Explorer and ones who don't and have no idea what it is. I live by it and was so glad to see it in Win8. Those who use MS Word/Excel a lot will adapt to the File Explorer office-esk navigation UI easily. Too bad Win8's version doesn't have tabs.
Even when using somoene elses computer (Win7) I'll always tell them to add the copy to/move to registry entries.
Ive used other file explorers that have the UI office-esk features for years now (have tried Unreal Commander, Explorer++, Better Explorer) on past Windows OS's and wouldn't use any plain oem Explorer now without them.
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This is crazy. Asking this question will get other peoples subjective views, GO to a store and try both OS. See what suits you the best. Personally I use Windows 7. I like it and see no reason to change to Windows 8, not because its not good, but I just don't need to.
If you haven't used either then you should go with the newest OS, since you will never know the difference.
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People not supporting the platform and not buying it has caused microsoft to take a step back in terms of forcing Metro on everyone. My preference not to buy was based on my own personal principles. I agree with everyone else in the forum that Windows 8 is a better OS under the hood (I don't think anyone disputes that), but the interface was a step in the wrong direction.

I didn't want to buy windows 8 because I did't like that direction and didn't want to support it. Had everyone bought windows 8, installed 3rd party software to make it more like win 7, then Microsoft probably would of made metro more prominent in windows 9.

The poor sales of Windows 8 has it going in the other direction where Microsoft is slowly backpedalling on the decision for force metro. Classic windows options are coming back. Start Button came back in 8.1. Boot to desktop should come in the next 8.1 update. Classic Start Menu in 8.2 (or windows 9) etc. For me that just leaves aero.

I'll probably skip 8 and buy 9 when it comes out. It's all on my own preference. I don't like buying things when the company changes then for the worse. If people do, then the company things the changes are good. There's only one way to companies to notice and that's by not buying their product. I'm only one person, but it seems a lot of other people felt the same way, and now Microsoft is listening.....
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MS should have stopped developing after win xp. It had all the stuff right in first place and they could have just charged for service packs and keep making it more secure.
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