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[Smart] Smart [ONT] Smart Electric Drive - $19K OTR

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Member
Sep 8, 2014
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Toronto, ON

Smart [ONT] Smart Electric Drive - $19K OTR

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Price:
19000
Savings:
13K rebate
Retailer:
Smart
2018 Smart Fortwo Electric Drive


32A@240V (7kW) charger adding 36 km of range per hour plugged in
improved highway handling with radar assisted braking and cross-wind electronic steering assist
larger 16" wheels
10 cm wider for more passenger room
top safety rating with 8 air bags and steel "tridion" cell
8 year battery and drive train warranty
$1.60 in electricity to drive 100 km (3x cheaper than a new Prius!)

In summary, the newer Smart handles better, charges faster and is a better highway car than the outgoing model. Range is only slight improved. Technology is much newer for audio and dash.

Compared to the best hybrid is 3x cheaper to fuel, and 5x cheaper to fuel than a compact gas car.
Electricity cost for a 60 km daily commute is $20/month (Ontario has cheap overnight electricity).

http://www.autotrader.ca/expert/2017063 ... ve-cabrio/
Exact MSRPs for the electric convertible are set to be finalized in July, but the upcoming ’17 Smart Electric Drive Coupe to be launched at the same time has been confirmed at $28,800. That’s roughly $1,800 over the previous electric coupe, so a similar amount on the convertible side would mean a starting price around $32,000
It poked, thrust and glided quicker through the traffic-clogged streets of downtown Geneva than many of the pricier convertibles it passed that day – handy, when you especially need a sanity-preserving escape route from gridlock frustration..
http://driving.ca/smart/fortwo/auto-new ... art-fortwo
its Tridion safety cell does what it’s supposed to do — transfer the impact around the cabin, instead of through it.
http://driving.ca/smart/fortwo-electric ... tric-drive
The 2018 Smart ForTwo Cabrio Electric Drive will start at $31,800, which is $3,000 more than the electric Coupe.
Costs $19K in Ontario all-in for the coupe.

Reference : Ontario EV rebate for Smart ED in 2013 was $8500 in 2017 the rebate is $13000.
Ref : http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicl ... bate.shtml

Configure the coupe:
https://www.smart.com/ca/en/index.html# ... rive-coupe

$19600 drive away price for a new 2018 Smart ED coupe
(taxes (13%), rebates (13000), destination (1200), Mercedes owner discount (1000) )
((28800-1000)*1.13)-13000+1200) = $19614

Configure the convertible:
https://www.smart.com/ca/en/index.html# ... rive-coupe

$23200 drive away price for a new 2018 Smart ED convertible
(taxes (13%), rebates (13000), destination (1200), Mercedes owner discount (1000) )
((31800-1000)*1.13)-13000+1200) = $23000



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Thread Summary
2018 Smart ForTwo Electric 36 Month 12k km/year Lease: $322/month OTR, $622 Due on Delivery.

Expired Deal - 2014 Smart fortwo electric drive $99/month for 36 months + $1819 Dealer Fees

Unhaggle:
2018 Smart fortwo electric drive coupe

Base MSRP: $28,800
Electric Drive Design Package MSRP: $795
Invoice Price with Package: $27,567
Freight and D&D: $1,295


2018 Smart fortwo electric drive cabriolet
Base MSRP: $31,800
Electric Drive Design Package MSRP: $795
Invoice Price with Package: $30,357
Freight and D&D: $1,295
201 replies
Sr. Member
Jan 16, 2016
631 posts
261 upvotes
Hamilton, ON
This car is garbage. Wait for the new Nissan Leaf if you want an electric econo-box.
Member
Sep 25, 2015
356 posts
136 upvotes
Toronto, ON
Only 17.6 kWh battery though. Ford Focus Electric has 33.5 kWh and only $20,500 OTR
[OP]
Member
Sep 8, 2014
414 posts
332 upvotes
Toronto, ON
Having driven a Smart Electric for 4 years, the car is surprisingly fun to drive and super cheap to operate.
The new base Nissan Leaf is $27800 OTR, a full $9K more expensive, comparing to $19K OTR for the Smart, that's a big difference.

Also, the new Leaf doesn't have a temperature conditioned battery system like the Smart, after 4 years and 25000 km, I've not lost any range in my Smart as per:
http://mysmartelectricdrive.blogspot.ca ... s-are.html

I posted several updates over the years of driving, not a single issue, total maintenance was $3 for a rear tail light bulb.

_ALL_ of the online reviews of the new Smart ED are positive, ALL of them.
Deal Addict
Sep 5, 2009
2472 posts
710 upvotes
RedStrikeCa wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:27 pm
Only 17.6 kWh battery though. Ford Focus Electric has 33.5 kWh and only $20,500 OTR
But.... how will you ever get a Focus? We can't use that car as a pricing benchmark, its almost impossible to buy.
Current cell plans:
Fido $15 3gb
Public Mobile $38/4gb
Koodo flaming hot 6s deal

Affordable wireless is possible, just takes some creativity.
[OP]
Member
Sep 8, 2014
414 posts
332 upvotes
Toronto, ON
RedStrikeCa wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:27 pm
Only 17.6 kWh battery though. Ford Focus Electric has 33.5 kWh and only $20,500 OTR
Ford no longer sells the FFE in Ontario. So that comparison is moot.
Deal Addict
Sep 5, 2009
2472 posts
710 upvotes
SmartElectric wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:29 pm
Having driven a Smart Electric for 4 years, the car is surprisingly fun to drive and super cheap to operate.
The new base Nissan Leaf is $27800 OTR, a full $9K more expensive, comparing to $19K OTR for the Smart, that's a big difference.

Also, the new Leaf doesn't have a temperature conditioned battery system like the Smart, after 4 years and 25000 km, I've not lost any range in my Smart as per:
http://mysmartelectricdrive.blogspot.ca ... s-are.html

I posted several updates over the years of driving, not a single issue, total maintenance was $3 for a rear tail light bulb.

_ALL_ of the online reviews of the new Smart ED are positive, ALL of them.
How did the car feel on the highway? Did it feel solid?
Current cell plans:
Fido $15 3gb
Public Mobile $38/4gb
Koodo flaming hot 6s deal

Affordable wireless is possible, just takes some creativity.
[OP]
Member
Sep 8, 2014
414 posts
332 upvotes
Toronto, ON
Video showing the handling of the Smart ED over rough roads, far more composed than the older Smart:
Member
Sep 25, 2015
356 posts
136 upvotes
Toronto, ON
dgnr8 wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:29 pm
But.... how will you ever get a Focus? We can't use that car as a pricing benchmark, its almost impossible to buy.
It's still possible to get a Focus with Ford employee pricing. Just call around to different dealerships. Someone may have cancelled their order.
[OP]
Member
Sep 8, 2014
414 posts
332 upvotes
Toronto, ON
dgnr8 wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:32 pm
How did the car feel on the highway? Did it feel solid?
Nurburgring with an electric smart


It's a go-cart. Very very firm ride, 100% direct steering (not soft), winds move the car around.
I've taken it on the highway, and even at maximum speed (the car is limited), it's fine, but on a windy day, not confidence inspiring.
[OP]
Member
Sep 8, 2014
414 posts
332 upvotes
Toronto, ON
RedStrikeCa wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:32 pm
It's still possible to get a Focus with Ford employee pricing. Just call around to different dealerships. Someone may have cancelled their order.
You know very well this isn't practically true. The FFE deal is dead. Dealers are only now delivering on the few hundred cars allowed to be sold in spring 2017, and 7 months later, deliveries are only just starting.
Member
Sep 25, 2015
356 posts
136 upvotes
Toronto, ON
SmartElectric wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:37 pm
You know very well this isn't practically true. The FFE deal is dead. Dealers are only now delivering on the few hundred cars allowed to be sold in spring 2017, and 7 months later, deliveries are only just starting.
I think the FFE deal is YMMV, technically Ford employee pricing is still in effect and it is certainly possible that someone cancels their order.
[OP]
Member
Sep 8, 2014
414 posts
332 upvotes
Toronto, ON
dgnr8 wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:32 pm
How did the car feel on the highway? Did it feel solid?
The new Smart has cross wind assist technology (Mercedes) which keeps it relatively stable on the highway.
It has a radar braking feature to make driving in traffic easier.

As ZAC says, it's an urban car:
Jr. Member
May 12, 2017
117 posts
64 upvotes
Get hit by a SUV and then tell me if this car is still good.
[OP]
Member
Sep 8, 2014
414 posts
332 upvotes
Toronto, ON
RedStrikeCa wrote:
Sep 9th, 2017 10:38 pm
it is certainly possible that someone cancels their order.
So, you are comparing an in-production vehicle you can order and take delivery in the next few months (Smart) to a dead deal where you'd need to find someone (of a total <200 people) who cancelled their order. We get your point. There ONCE was a deal that a few hundred people got. That deal is over, and unobtanium now.

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