Smoking HOT!!! Iphone 3G Plan $35/mo No data plan!!!1

[chrza]

Yeah, I kind of know what you mean - I got one almost a year ago, and in the beginning was basically embarassed to take it out of my pocket. Didn't want people to think "look at that loser whipping out his iphone".

haha, that's exactly it.

My renewal period is in about 6 months. I may wait til then. And by then, they'll be old news already. I also want a good retention plan more than anything. Not sure what they'll offer with me still having a year left on my contract.

[grape]

Not yet

with no data plan, i can still use wifi....
there is 2 type of wifi

3G(old gen have edge)
wifi

3g is using cell tower to go internet
wifi is with ur good ol router

i can still make voip calls with wifi on

so its a multi media device for me, with a camera..

[Rehan]

This has been discussed thoroughly here

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...d.php?t=608800

at&t unlimited has a "soft cap" of 5 GB

You must've missed this post in that thread:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...69#post7077569

[eeto]

I am confused why others on this forum cannot see the benefit of an iphone without the data plan. Isn't this brain dead obvious? Telco's charge ridiculous rates for data transferred over their airwaves. I thought THE BIGGEST attraction of the iphone was that it has wifi capabilities, and is able to connect to any Internet "hot spot" around the world, and then use the Internet for free data connections. Once you have your free data connection in place, the iphone could be used to make free Internet phone calls. And with homebrew available on the iphone, the possibilities for future apps are endless.

that's "ideally", but far from reality.... more along the lines - "you wish!!"

Haven't heard of any develop plans of that either.

[moko]

I am confused why others on this forum cannot see the benefit of an iphone without the data plan. Isn't this brain dead obvious? Telco's charge ridiculous rates for data transferred over their airwaves. I thought THE BIGGEST attraction of the iphone was that it has wifi capabilities, and is able to connect to any Internet "hot spot" around the world, and then use the Internet for free data connections. Once you have your free data connection in place, the iphone could be used to make free Internet phone calls. And with homebrew available on the iphone, the possibilities for future apps are endless.

I agree with you having Wi-Fi is very advantageous. Excuse me for my reasoning, I guess i was talking from the perspective of 1st gen iphone owner. Although with the new rogers iphone, all the data capability is turned on, so if you mistakenly tap on youtube, safari, stock or weather, you'll start paying some pretty heavy charge for the new iphone for the data.

There are quite a few wi-fi, but it's also arguable that if you are on the move all the time, than you can't really depend on wifi. Even on "hotspot" zones, you have to pay for wifi, so it's not exactly free whenever you are in hotspots

[kiasu]

with no data plan, i can still use wifi....
there is 2 type of wifi

3G(old gen have edge)
wifi

3g is using cell tower to go internet
wifi is with ur good ol router

i can still make voip calls with wifi on

so its a multi media device for me, with a camera..

Con for iPhone 3G:
- There's no flash for the camera, meaning you sux when u r taking pic at night or indoor
- There's no slot for exteneded flash memory like microsd, ..etc
- The browser doesnt play flash
- No radio function, not even FM

[moko]

You must've missed this post in that thread:
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...69#post7077569

Oops, thanks for pointing that out . Well, i'll retract that comment than (in my defense, 6 GB is still a LOT, but, true, it's not unlimited).

[HBP]

I think the OP just wanted to have a large thread under his name.

Anyone can sign up for the 3 year contract, and guess what... pay even less monthly than you are. Although I'm sure the deal would be better if my mom signed up for me.

[Tijuana]

I'm sorry but getting an iPhone without a data plan is like using a soccer ball for basketball. Yes it will still work and will make due if you dont have a basketball, but its not meant to be used like that. I'll wait till next year for American competitors to come and shower them with all my wireless bills.

[chrza]

I'm sorry but getting an iPhone without a data plan is like using a soccer ball for basketball. Yes it will still work and will make due if you dont have a basketball, but its not meant to be used like that. I'll wait till next year for American competitors to come and shower them with all my wireless bills.

Haha, so the iPhone is not meant to be used as an MP3 or Video player? Or for someone who just wants limited internet use via Wifi?

It's funny how you think you can determine it's usefullness or purpose for other people. People can use it as a door stopper if you really want.

As if people on here are actually iPhone elitists, haha.

Not sure which American competitors you're hoping to come here either.

[Tijuana]

Haha, so the iPhone is not meant to be used as an MP3 or Video player? Or for someone who just wants limited internet use via Wifi?

It's funny how you think you can determine it's usefullness or purpose for other people. People can use it as a door stopper if you really want.

As if people on here are actually iPhone elitists, haha.

Not sure which American competitors you're hoping to come here either.

1. Does the touch in anyway seem familiar to you?

2. Selling of wireless spectrum, American companies have bought very few, and hopefully they will be available in the GTA. http://www.canada.com/topics/news/st...b6ba94&k=82916

[q95]

Do you guys have a hard time understanding that: DATA is DATA

It doesn't matter if data is coming over the airwaves from a cellular tower, or if the data is coming from a wifi zone. You get the exact same result in your Safari web browser. Except when the data is being transfered using the 3G protocol (talking to the cellular provider's tower), it is costing you money. When data is coming from a wifi zone, its not costing you.

Yes, you get better coverage, and much more reliable connection with a monthly data plan, but for us frugal (errr, smart) shoppers, we can get by using the free wifi zones.

Anyone who cannot see why an iphone is still usefull without a data plan clearly has no understanding about how the Internet and network communications work.

[Coolme]

Con for iPhone 3G:
- There's no flash for the camera, meaning you sux when u r taking pic at night or indoor
- There's no slot for exteneded flash memory like microsd, ..etc
- The browser doesnt play flash
- No radio function, not even FM

Here's my list of missing SOFTWARE features: (feel free to correct, add more to the list)

Phone
-No speed dial
-Can't search 'recents' call list
-Can't delete single entries in 'recents' call list
-No call recording
-Doesn't support caller ID name display
-If you sync your contacts with exchange, you can't add your personal contacts unless you add them to exchange
-Can't use music from iPod app as ring tone
-Can't sort contacts by categories such as by company
-Can't add custom fields for contacts, low amount of fields available for contacts (16 vs. 55 on Nokia N95)
-Can't add/modify contact groups
-Can't select distinctive ring tone for unknown callers
-Contacts list can't be configured to show name and company name simultaneously
-No voice dial (App from App Store will support this)

Mail
-No search function
-No horizontal keyboard mode
-Large image attachments are scaled to VGA resolution
-Only attachments you can send are photo attachments
-No support for sending multiple attachments
-No horizontal view when viewing office suite documents
-Can't save attachments unless it's a picture attachment
-Can't edit office attachments
-Can't open zip attachments
-Can't empty email box with one click
-Can't sort email by sender/size
-Can't delete multiple characters simultaneously when writing email and can't select text to be quoted in replies
-Can't force plain text messages
-Can't delete all emails in trash manually (auto delete after x days is available in settings)
-No spam filtering
-Can't mark all/multiple messages as read
-Can't flag messages
-Can't cancel email download, send email, attachment download
-Manual mail check is not manual! Mail will check for your mail when you enter mail, even in manual mail check mode
-Can't check for mail from select email accounts, mail will check for new mail for all email accounts configured
-Can't have a unified inbox (with multiple email addresses configured)
-No push email unless it's exchange/mobileme/yahoo
-Can't create email folders in mail
-Doesn't allow addition of contact information in emails (i.e. someone emails you their new phone number) to contacts
-No jump to page, search when viewing email attachments
-Can't customize new mail notification sound, can't select custom notification sound for a particular email account

Calendar
-If you sync your calendars with exchange, you can't add your personal calendars unless you add them to exchange
-No search function
-No week view
-No horizontal keyboard mode
-No todo list syncing with iCal
-No tasks syncing with exchange
-Can't change start of the week in 'month' view
-Can't snooze calendar alarms
-Can't customize alarm time for event
-Can't customize alarm sound
-Can't invite contacts to an event
-Can't add or remove calendars
-No advanced recurring options for calendar events (i.e.) Difficult to add events recurring on tue and thurs till mar 20)
-Not really a missing feature, but better use of multitouch could be employed in 'day' view (you can't create an event by selecting a time like you can in iCal, google calendar and you can't move an event by dragging it)
-Can't choose calendar colour

Safari
-No flash, java
-Can't open links in a new tab
-Can't delete multiple characters simultaneously when writing in text field (such as a reply field for a forum)
-Can't access internal file system (can't upload anything from safari)
-Some heavily coded pages will not load as they should or the way they load on desktop safari
-Can't open/save zip/office suite files
-Can't highlight text, no copy and paste means if safari doesn't recognize a link, you have to hold backspace, and manually type it in the address bar

SMS
-Can't delete a particular message from a conversation
-No search function
-No horizontal keyboard mode
-Unable to customize notification sound
-No emotion icons
-No multiple selection available

Photos + Camera
-No digital zoom
-No manual photo tagging
-Photo filters, possibly a lesser version of the fun things you can do with isight photo booth
-No video recording (Apps from App Store will support this)

Maps with GPS
-Can't load maps while using GPS unless you have cellular/wifi signal (Apps from App Store may solve this)

YouTube
-Can't login to your youtube account and access your playlists
-Can't upload videos youtube (Apps from App Store may support this)

Stocks, Weather, Notes
-Can't sync (especially with exchange) notes
-No categories available in notes
-Can't search through notes
-No multiple selection in notes
-Can't format notes
-No voice memo
-Can't change order of cities in weather
-Can't change indices in stocks

iPod
-No music/video streaming (AppleTV like streaming)
-No stereo audio streaming via bluetooth
-Can't delete music/other media without iTunes

App Store/Apps
-No cross file structure (Different apps can't share files)

Misc
-No copy and paste
-No MMS
-No Lotus notes support (at least not official)
-No wifi, bluetooth sync
-Limited bluetooth capability (no file transfer)
-Inability to toggle EDGE state (on/off) for 3G models
-No global search function
-No password management utility
-No blackberry plug-in
-Lack of an 'active standby' or information screen displaying key information at a glance
-No voice commands
-No support for computer data tethering (NetShare from App Store will support this)
-limited control over internal file system (DataCase from App Store will support file storage and file viewing)
-No standalone word, keynote, powerpoint, excel viewer (FileMagnet from App Store will support this)
-No iChat software (Apps from App Store will support similar functionality)
-No audio recording (Apps from App Store will support this)

I think the most significant missing software features are in mail. Where you can't send/edit/save/sync PDF/office documents, and attach multiple attachments. Big let down for business customers. I also realize that not everyone will be a mail power user, but there are still some very basic mail features that the iPhone lacks, and having an advanced mail program doesn't do any harm. Also Apple's big push for enterprise customers will be much smoother if Apple's mail client can at least compete with Blackberry's.

BTW, all of these features can be added with software updates, this list just gives you a better idea about what the iPhone doesn't do right now.

[Tijuana]

Do you guys have a hard time understanding that: DATA is DATA

It doesn't matter if data is coming over the airwaves from a cellular tower, or if the data is coming from a wifi zone. You get the exact same result in your Safari web browser. Except when the data is being transfered using the 3G protocol (talking to the cellular provider's tower), it is costing you money. When data is coming from a wifi zone, its not costing you.

Yes, you get better coverage, and much more reliable connection with a monthly data plan, but for us frugal (errr, smart) shoppers, we can get by using the free wifi zones.

Anyone who cannot see why an iphone is still usefull without a data plan clearly has no understanding about how the Internet and network communications work.

Your right, I have no idea about anything that is somewhat related to the internet. I guess I just cant justify spending roughly 3000 dollars over 3 years just to own the iPhone while I can get a touch with more space for quite less...

[Coolme]

Your right, I have no idea about anything that is somewhat related to the internet. I guess I just cant justify spending roughly 3000 dollars over 3 years just to own the iPhone while I can get a touch with more space for quite less...

But you can add an iPhone any exsiting (Rogers/Fido of course) voice, voice/data plan. Why pay for a cellphone + iTouch, when you can keep your cell phone plan and get the iPhone for less than a touch?