SMOKING HOT: Socket 939 Opterons

[alpha_tot]

@ NCIX
144 OEM: $148 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=H66966
146 OEM: $166 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ICRO%20DEVICES
165 (dual core) OEM: $362 http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...ICRO%20DEVICES

[carlos5]

what is good about opterons?

[lhsonic]

what is good about opterons?

Opterons are amazing processors (from what I've heard on the web) becasue they have unlocked (they shoud... ) multipliers and can be overclocked easily to 2.7GHz from just 2.0 on stock air cooling. That's friggin AMAZING. The only difference in this cpu compared to other opterons is that this is just a low-end cpu when you don't overclock it. But 2.7Ghz!!! I think they have Athlon FX-54 cores, that's why... Hehhe, still owns the Intel crap. Just be careful, a fact i'm not sure of is if you need a Opteron-dedicated motherboard and if you do, you're probably gonna have to buy ECC (registered) ram which is a lot more, unless you look on ebay

[alpha_tot]

Opterons are amazing processors (from what I've heard on the web) becasue they have unlocked (they shoud... ) multipliers and can be overclocked easily to 2.7GHz from just 2.0 on stock air cooling. That's friggin AMAZING. The only difference in this cpu compared to other opterons is that this is just a low-end cpu when you don't overclock it. But 2.7Ghz!!! I think they have Athlon FX-54 cores, that's why... Hehhe, still owns the Intel crap. Just be careful, a fact i'm not sure of is if you need a Opteron-dedicated motherboard and if you do, you're probably gonna have to buy ECC (registered) ram which is a lot more, unless you look on ebay

These chips have locked multipliers. Theyre the 939 version, which means they dont need ECC ram or special boards...theyre pretty much the same chip as any san diego, but they oc better. Certain steppings are getting upwards of 3.2ghz (on water), and a lot of people are reporting 2.8ish on air. Others are topping out at about 2.5ghz, so i guess as usual, ymmv. (even @ 2.5ghz, you have to consider these things have 1mb l2 cache...so theyre still monsters)
On some extreme cooling: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7600/424449uj.png (its really a 939, misidentified by CPUZ)

[supernerd]

I think they have Athlon FX-54 cores

You mean FX-5[1,3,5,7]? But regardless, I haven't seen the difference between an Opteron 1xx and an Athlon FX. And the only difference between the 1xx and [2,4,8]xx opterons is that the latter has more HyperTransport links to communicate in SMP systems...

[Chipbug]

Opterons are amazing processors (from what I've heard on the web) becasue they have unlocked (they shoud... ) multipliers and can be overclocked easily to 2.7GHz from just 2.0 on stock air cooling. That's friggin AMAZING. The only difference in this cpu compared to other opterons is that this is just a low-end cpu when you don't overclock it. But 2.7Ghz!!! I think they have Athlon FX-54 cores, that's why... Hehhe, still owns the Intel crap. Just be careful, a fact i'm not sure of is if you need a Opteron-dedicated motherboard and if you do, you're probably gonna have to buy ECC (registered) ram which is a lot more, unless you look on ebay

Most Opteron chips use Socket 940. So yes, you will need a Opeteron specific motherboard which is usually pretty expensive also.

[lhsonic]

oops, actually, you know what, i unno, it's a San Diego core though, thanks to the dude's response alpha_tot's response. See, you can get 2.8 on air, BLAZING FAST 3.2!!!!???? THAT'S FRIGGIN AMAZING, WAY, WAY FASTER than ANYTHING Intel has, what is that in Intel P4 talk, like hmmm, i unno, but FAST none the less. Maybe i'll pick one up, thanks for the clarification. BTW, please answer how fast this thing is in P4 talk and how long it'd would last before it died on you from overclocking because o/cing over 50% just can't be good :P JUST REMEMBER, some CPUs are just built better than others, you may only be able to pump out 2.4 from 2.0 or nothing at all if you get a "close-lemon".

[lhsonic]

Most Opteron chips use Socket 940. So yes, you will need a Opeteron specific motherboard which is usually pretty expensive also.

Eh> ... did you even see the product? it's S939. Oh ya, and definitely get the OEM and get your own cooling instead of stock. But then, with an OEM, do i get a fancy AMD case sticker? Oh ya, and how long should I run it in for before I start O/Cing the shiasfaists out of it?

[hamhead]

who cares how far it can overclock!!!

A celeron D can OC to 3.8ghz easy and it wont even beat a Pentium4 3ghz.

What i want to say is: HOW DOES AN OPTERON 144 COMPARE to an AMD64 3000+ , BOTH OVERCLOCKED to say, 2.6ghz??

I mean, if an OCed Opteron is slower than an AMD64 cpu, then wuts the point of OCing when it still sux. I also heard that the opteron may be slower then an AMD64 in gaming... anyone know??

[alpha_tot]

who cares how far it can overclock!!!

A celeron D can OC to 3.8ghz easy and it wont even beat a Pentium4 3ghz.

What i want to say is: HOW DOES AN OPTERON 144 COMPARE to an AMD64 3000+ , BOTH OVERCLOCKED to say, 2.6ghz??

I mean, if an OCed Opteron is slower than an AMD64 cpu, then wuts the point of OCing when it still sux. I also heard that the opteron may be slower then an AMD64 in gaming... anyone know??

Its the exact same thing as a san diego, clock-for-clock as far as I know. (1mb L2 cache vs the 512kb of a venice)

[lhsonic]

who cares how far it can overclock!!!

A celeron D can OC to 3.8ghz easy and it wont even beat a Pentium4 3ghz.

What i want to say is: HOW DOES AN OPTERON 144 COMPARE to an AMD64 3000+ , BOTH OVERCLOCKED to say, 2.6ghz??

I mean, if an OCed Opteron is slower than an AMD64 cpu, then wuts the point of OCing when it still sux. I also heard that the opteron may be slower then an AMD64 in gaming... anyone know??

Hehe, but the opteron if you get the CABNE revision can EASILY go 3.2 with little extra power. If you get CABGE OR CABYE, different story, you can go up to about 2.8 but you need much more powerful (which is quite risky), anyways, that plus the price difference is what makes this thing stand out. This thing could very well be comparable to a FX-55. Anyone know if these are CABNE's?

[firestorm996]

These chips have locked multipliers. Theyre the 939 version, which means they dont need ECC ram or special boards...theyre pretty much the same chip as any san diego, but they oc better. Certain steppings are getting upwards of 3.2ghz (on water), and a lot of people are reporting 2.8ish on air. Others are topping out at about 2.5ghz, so i guess as usual, ymmv. (even @ 2.5ghz, you have to consider these things have 1mb l2 cache...so theyre still monsters)
On some extreme cooling: http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7600/424449uj.png (its really a 939, misidentified by CPUZ)

So what you're saying is that these things perform better then an equally priced Venice 3200+ (about $189) on the same mobo? I'd like to read more about that - any unbiases comparisons out there you know of i.e. TomsHardware or something like that?

Cheers.

[alpha_tot]

Hehe, but the opteron if you get the CABNE revision can EASILY go 3.2 with little extra power. If you get CABGE OR CABYE, different story, you can go up to about 2.8 but you need much more powerful (which is quite risky), anyways, that plus the price difference is what makes this thing stand out. This thing could very well be comparable to a FX-55. Anyone know if these are CABNE's?

Most CABNES cant make 3.2 easily on air, on water a lot are making 3+ on stock or slightly more volts...CABGEs seem to take a lot more volts to do the same thing...the CABYEs seem pretty solid though... I would doubt these are CABNEs (I think that was just the first batch)...probably YEs or GEs...i hope theyre YEs though...

[Desalex]

That's just frikkin' awesome. Time to warm up the credit cards....

[oc613]

this is old news.

you aren't going to get a cabne through a retail chanel, let alone one in canada!

you guys are months too late.