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brunes wrote:
Jun 19th, 2018 8:21 pm
Agree. This is what the bears do not understand about this stock.

You know Tesla has a $0 budget for marketing? Zero. Nada. They don't need it, all their marketing comes from word of mouth and Elon's twitter account; they have backorders for years what do they need with marketing.

The bears like to trot out that "there is no moat". Then... why are sales of the Leaf so abysmal compared to Tesla? Because it is not a Tesla, that's why. Its not all about range; its also about quality, and style.

People don't buy iPhones because they have superior stats to Android phones (they don't)
I'd disagree with that. iPhones blow Android out of the water in many of the stats that matter. Certain Android phones may beat apple in some random GeekBench score once in a while, but it's not like Apple flagship phones are lacking in speed. Far from it.
or superior features (they don't)
They have fewer features, but the ones that Apple does tackle tend to work really, really, well. Sure, lots of Android manufacturers rush out things that they hear Apple is working on, but it's hard to argue that Apple usually does the core stuff much better. Smoother scrolling, better fingerprint sensors, more accurate colors. Again, some Android phones will beat them out in one or two things occasionally, but not the whole package.

That's what Tesla offers, the whole package. Some manufacturer may one day offer a longer range battery, but they'll fail on the software, or the handling, or the styling, or something else.
or superior apps (they don't).
MOST apps work much better on an iPhone. Many apps come to iPhone first and the experience is tailored for it. For a while, even Google Apps were well known to look and run better on an iPhone than on Android. Most of this is due to market share. It's less fragmented and it's harder to go wrong building an accessory or app for an audience that is generally willing to pay for your products. In my experience, I've found many colleagues on Android will suffer to use a FREE app, rather than pay a couple of bucks... because of the allure of... FREE.

Tesla owners are also willing to pay a premium if they feel it will add value.
Yet look at what AAPL has achieved. Tesla is much the same, I liken Tesla vs Nissan/GM as Apple vs Samsung/LG. Yes, Nissan and GM will eat into Tesla's marketshare as the EV market grows.. but who cares? This market is enormous.
Tesla is similar in that it controls the entire process from top to bottom, and focuses on performance, style, function and true design. It also puts out a quality product. It's not JUST about image with Tesla, or Apple. Sure, that's part of the equation... brand equity. But brand equity only goes so far. Tesla is an aspirational product, but it puts out a quality product. Apple is an aspirational product and controls the whole widget from top to bottom. It puts out a quality product and carries a reputation of quality. I think that's slipped in the last few years as the beancounters have put more emphasis on profit than before. Lets hope that doesn't happen to Tesla as well.

I'd hesitate to directly compare them like for like, mind you... though they do have similarities. They both have a rabid core fanbase that has been earned, party because the competition was just horrible half-assed for so long, and partly because they aren't just marketing a car to you, you feel like they actually care about the product itself... more than the money they get from it. True or not, that's the feeling.
I'd love to write history... in advance.
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I wish common shareholders all the best. The higher the stock price (based on top line and production numbers growth) goes, with negative cash flow from operations also growing exponentially at the same time, the safer my future put bet will be.

Timing is everything in investing so current bulls and future bears can both win.
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Even solar city employees are getting cut.

stock price should go up with every job cut announcement, shouldn't it?

Edit: I just requested for my $1k back. It's either through wire transfer (up to 13 days) or physical cheque (31-60 days). Chose the former but too slow to capture a screen shot of my banking details, lol. Oh well.
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From my analysis, if you don't own any TSLA , a good opportunity to buy is between

313.58 to 319 (middle is 316.29)

Price already went in this zone this morning, but it may come in again today. I'm eyeing it myself.

Most importantly, after you buy, place a market stop below 313.58, up to your risk level in where to place the stop.

Remember US stock markets close at 1pm EST today and closed tomorrow
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I've been a big fan of Tesla but the stock is moving like a penny stock with all this pumping and dumping and I really hate stuff like twitter announcements on a sunday and then everyone expecting stock movement based on news and twitter posts it just reeks of what was happening with cryptocurrency (everyone waiting on announcements etc). Also, Musk's constant mentioning of how he will destroy short sellers is bothersome.
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360-310 in a day and half, LOL

tesla is without a doubt, Enron 2
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rfdrfd wrote:
Jul 3rd, 2018 10:21 am
From my analysis, if you don't own any TSLA , a good opportunity to buy is between

313.58 to 319 (middle is 316.29)

Price already went in this zone this morning, but it may come in again today. I'm eyeing it myself.

Most importantly, after you buy, place a market stop below 313.58, up to your risk level in where to place the stop.

Remember US stock markets close at 1pm EST today and closed tomorrow
Are you buying?
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alanbrenton wrote:
Jul 4th, 2018 10:07 am
Are you buying?
Actually I did buy. $ 316.29 I have set my stop is at 309.58 which is mighty close (to current price). I bought 50 shares, If I get stopped out, my loss is $ 335.50 + commissions, which is the risk, according to my trading plan.

In hindsight, I could have entered on a confirmation entry, meaning, wait and only buy if TSLA price turns and exits the zone (upwards). If I did that, I would not be in right now.

Today is July 4, so US markets are closed. So tomorrow will be interesting at the open. Either its going up or down. If it gaps down, then I'll lose a little bit more than my planned risk, but such is the disadvantages of trading stocks.

If S&P, Nasdaq opens up tomorrow, it will lift everyone up with it.

We shall see tomorrow!
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rfdrfd wrote:
Jul 4th, 2018 10:18 am
Actually I did buy. $ 316.29 I have set my stop is at 309.58 which is mighty close (to current price). I bought 50 shares, If I get stopped out, my loss is $ 335.50 + commissions, which is the risk, according to my trading plan.

In hindsight, I could have entered on a confirmation entry, meaning, wait and only buy if TSLA price turns and exits the zone (upwards). If I did that, I would not be in right now.

Today is July 4, so US markets are closed. So tomorrow will be interesting at the open. Either its going up or down. If it gaps down, then I'll lose a little bit more than my planned risk, but such is the disadvantages of trading stocks.

If S&P, Nasdaq opens up tomorrow, it will lift everyone up with it.

We shall see tomorrow!
Did you just describe yourself going to the casino tomorrow and buying red/black at the roulette table? lol For a stock with such high volatility you set a very narrow stop loss (money at risk). This is no different than gambling if you do that, no long term view and pure speculation. You basically put in a 2% buffer but the stock can move 5% in any given 2-3 day cycle.
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Needless to say, I was stopped out. Move on to the next opportunity.
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360 to 300 in 2 days with heavy sell side volume, but that is nothing compares to the inevitable BK.

absolutely 0 path to sustained profitability
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atang810 wrote:
Jul 4th, 2018 5:42 pm
Did you just describe yourself going to the casino tomorrow and buying red/black at the roulette table? lol For a stock with such high volatility you set a very narrow stop loss (money at risk). This is no different than gambling if you do that, no long term view and pure speculation. You basically put in a 2% buffer but the stock can move 5% in any given 2-3 day cycle.
He/She's a technical trader with set stop loss limits that he/she is comfortable with - What's the big issue?
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SkimGuy wrote:
Jul 5th, 2018 12:54 pm
He/She's a technical trader with set stop loss limits that he/she is comfortable with - What's the big issue?
I think atang's point is that for a volatile stock like TSLA, a stop loss limit of only 2% is probably not sufficient since the stock tends to move up and down 5% per day for no reason at all. Perhaps a smaller position with a larger stop loss limit would work out better
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muppetslayer wrote:
Jul 5th, 2018 1:05 pm
I think atang's point is that for a volatile stock like TSLA, a stop loss limit of only 2% is probably not sufficient since the stock tends to move up and down 5% per day for no reason at all. Perhaps a smaller position with a larger stop loss limit would work out better
That's my point exactly. Thanks muppetslayer. Who would go to the casino and play $20 hands but only bring in $40 total.

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