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SOPA has a little brother in Canada Called Bill C-11.

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  • Oct 18th, 2012 11:29 am
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Has C-11 changed since last time it was being proposed?

I don't remember it having anything similar to SOPA in it. That's the problem with special interest groups lobbying our gov't though, it'll probably look like SOPA by the time it actually gets passed.
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hugh_da_man wrote:
Jan 25th, 2012 5:25 pm
Has C-11 changed since last time it was being proposed?

I don't remember it having anything similar to SOPA in it. That's the problem with special interest groups lobbying our gov't though, it'll probably look like SOPA by the time it actually gets passed.
The music industry is seeking over a dozen changes to Canadian anti-piracy bill C-11, including website blocking, Internet termination for alleged repeat infringers, and an expansion of the "enabler" provision that is supposedly designed to target pirate sites. Meanwhile, the Entertainment Software Association of Canada also wants an expansion of the enabler provision along with further tightening of the already-restrictive digital lock rules.
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infamouskid wrote:
Jan 25th, 2012 4:35 pm
http://business.financialpost.com/2012/ ... ert-warns/

this is something every Canadian should fight against.

Okay...how to do that? Mr. Harper has made it very clear that he doesn't have to listen to anyone since he got his majority. He keeps repeating that he has a mandate. Seems like he wants to remain a favourite of the Obama administration and this bill's passage would keep him on the "Friends of USA" list. More like a dog on a leash but that's my take on all this...
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DougO wrote:
Jan 25th, 2012 8:08 pm
Okay...how to do that? Mr. Harper has made it very clear that he doesn't have to listen to anyone since he got his majority. He keeps repeating that he has a mandate. Seems like he wants to remain a favourite of the Obama administration and this bill's passage would keep him on the "Friends of USA" list. More like a dog on a leash but that's my take on all this...
We didn't elect a King, nor a dictator... the rules are such that if enough individual MP's (your elected representative) voice their opinions in the negative, the bill will either die on the vote, amendments not be introduced, killed in committee by stall tactics or cause of a non confidence in the house and another election! If the peoples voice is ignored... the government risks much and the individual MP's record will be considered next election unless everyone thinks this is small potatoes?

If you don't hold your representative accountable... and let them know your concerns and issues; then you've elected a King: if they think they're doing the right thing. Tell them NO.

Harper has a majority of the seats of the house of commons, but doesn't represent the majority of Canadians...
He needs to be reminded we are not just another US state without voting rights, are we governed by foreign lobbyists now?

Small potato farmers please exit.
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ah802 wrote:
Jan 26th, 2012 11:13 am
We didn't elect a King, nor a dictator... the rules are such that if enough individual MP's (your elected representative) voice their opinions in the negative, the bill will either die on the vote, amendments not be introduced, killed in committee by stall tactics or cause of a non confidence in the house and another election! If the peoples voice is ignored... the government risks much and the individual MP's record will be considered next election unless everyone thinks this is small potatoes?

If you don't hold your representative accountable... and let them know your concerns and issues; then you've elected a King: if they think they're doing the right thing. Tell them NO.

Harper has a majority of the seats of the house of commons, but doesn't represent the majority of Canadians...
He needs to be reminded we are not just another US state without voting rights, are we governed by foreign lobbyists now?

Small potato farmers please exit.

Very nice speech. Getting back to things. Watch this bill sail through now that the Cons also hold the majority in the senate. My reps in this area are NDP. Guess the Cons will listen to them, eh? Trying to not get this locked but you make it so difficult...
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Unlike US judges, Canadian judges are impartial and actually respect the constitution. Darconian laws are not going to be easy walkthrough for Harper. The court should be able to put an to end to sensless rules.
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If you hate Bill C-11, let your local MP know about. Call their office and book and appointment with him or her.
You can even write to the PM and the Industry Minister:
Prime Minister's office: pm@pm.gc.ca
Industry Minister: christian.paradis@parl.gc.ca
There's an online petition too: http://www.petitiononlinecanada.com/pet ... on-act/362
We probably can't do enough to stop Harper from going ahead with the Bill C-11... but who knows... if hating Bill C-11 becomes popular enough, it might get enough bad media exposure to make Harper rethink the more American / Draconian parts of the Bill.
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dealstime wrote:
Jan 26th, 2012 9:56 pm
Unlike US judges, Canadian judges are impartial and actually respect the constitution. Darconian laws are not going to be easy walkthrough for Harper. The court should be able to put an to end to sensless rules.
This is pretty well my perspective on this issue.. (and our last hope, unless we get a ground swell of support to defeat C-11 and Canada's SOPA) hopefully the courts can see through this political fiasco and save us until some sanity comes to the industry promoting their $ views.

The very fact that the Harper government even entertains this kind of foreign lobby devalues and tarnishes Canadian values of fairness and decency in world eyes; as if our laws can be bought... and Canada is for sale at the right price. I'm personally offended... especially for the small potato farmers who should be better Canadians.
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Homer Jay Simpson wrote:
Jan 26th, 2012 11:41 pm
If you hate Bill C-11, let your local MP know about. Call their office and book and appointment with him or her.
You can even write to the PM and the Industry Minister:
Prime Minister's office: pm@pm.gc.ca
Industry Minister: christian.paradis@parl.gc.ca
There's an online petition too: http://www.petitiononlinecanada.com/pet ... on-act/362
We probably can't do enough to stop Harper from going ahead with the Bill C-11... but who knows... if hating Bill C-11 becomes popular enough, it might get enough bad media exposure to make Harper rethink the more American / Draconian parts of the Bill.

Just more info to help anybody who want to find an avenue to voice their opinion.

How to find your local MP and their contact info: http://www.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Compilat ... lCode.aspx

Letter wizard to send a form letter automatically to the "important people": http://www.ccer.ca/letter-wizard-enter/

More info on the bill itself and how it can affect our lives:
http://www.votecanada.ca/stop-bill-c-11-copyright.html
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/index.php
http://www.ccer.ca/
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It's not just Canada they have this crap in europe it's called ACTA. This is a global coardinated effort by government and studios to lock down and control the internet Chinese style.
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Jimboski wrote:
Jan 30th, 2012 11:05 pm
fight fight fight

Yeah! seriously... I'm sick and tired of Americans trying to force their crappy corrupted system on the rest of the world. And they wonder why most of the world hates them.

I'm also tired of this crap that Harper is spewing that it's his mandate to push America on us because he has a majority government. Why should a multi-billion dollar American lobbyist have more say than Canadian voters in Canada. We need every Canadian to know how much this bill can affect everybody's life in a harmful way.
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