Which specilization of science?

[MATHEMATICS]

Which specialization in science will most likely land you a good job if you are not planning to go to medical school etc?

[pitz]

Where's the, "none of the above" button?

Seriously, if the past decade is any indication, the sequelae of most of those programs at the Bachelors level is underemployment, underappreciation, and massive loans and opportunity costs to repay.

[B0000rt]

Where's "Computer" science

Please don't comment on my comment pitz

[pitz]

Please don't comment on my comment pitz

Grow up.

[kkvvpp]

I think you need to look at the area of sciences that you're genuinely interested in? If the ones you listed were all the ones you're interested in then maybe environmental science?

The whole green movement is really going.

Where's the, "none of the above" button?

Seriously, if the past decade is any indication, the sequelae of most of those programs at the Bachelors level is underemployment, underappreciation, and massive loans and opportunity costs to repay.

This is a common theme in all your posts. You need to see a shrink, were you never loved growing up?

You need to get banned from this forum, no one ever gives out worse advice.

[jjfz3000]

Which specialization in science will most likely land you a good job if you are not planning to go to medical school etc?

Chemistry and then go into the energy sector. But you really can't expect a good job with just a BS. People usually get a MS, PhD, or professional school.

I wouldn't count on the green movement too much since there's still not enough money for it by both consumers and governments.

EDIT: I'm not saying you're going to be unemployed. BUT, the high-paying/interesting jobs all require higher education.

[steevee]

Or you can get a post-graduate diploma.

[verteqz]

Where's the, "none of the above" button?

Seriously, if the past decade is any indication, the sequelae of most of those programs at the Bachelors level is underemployment, underappreciation, and massive loans and opportunity costs to repay.

Man, you really need to stop ruining every thread on this forum. I used to think your comments were semi-insightful...now you sound just like you're just trolling.

[Churo1]

What's wrong with Pitz's post? Can't handle the truth? Sucks doesn't it. Too bad for you guys. It will be less painful however is you just accept it.

Careers that science grads have (that I personally know of) include hostesses at small mall restaurants, Timothy's coffee employees, and career unemployment.

[litebrite]

consider food science. there's always food manufacturers wanting to develop new products and food will always be around.

[verteqz]

What's wrong with Pitz's post? Can't handle the truth? Sucks doesn't it. Too bad for you guys. It will be less painful however is you just accept it.

Careers that science grads have (that I personally know of) include hostesses at small mall restaurants, Timothy's coffee employees, and career unemployment.

Short version of every Pitz post in the careers forum:

OP: "Hey guys I need advice on non-engineering related career"
Pitz: "You're doomed"

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not very useful hearing the same opinion on every thread.

[Justine]

NOT environmental science, speaking from personal experience, you need more schooling.

[Churo1]

Short version of every Pitz post in the careers forum:

OP: "Hey guys I need advice on non-engineering related career"
Pitz: "You're doomed"

There's nothing wrong with it, it's just not very useful hearing the same opinion on every thread.

I don't think this is the case. I've read several of Pitz's posts. He also tells you about the downfalls of engineering careers. He's just being truthful, it's hard these days to find meaningful employment related to the post secondary education people have studied. Science is especially hard. Very hard to break into the industry these days without connections.

[_protege_]

There are a lot of misconceptions floating around about the Science field. You are NOT doomed if you only have a BSc in Biochem, chemistry, microbiology etc etc. However, you ARE doomed if you do not try to get experience during your undergrad, do not improve interview skills, slack during the summer, are not willing to work from the bottom, and give up easily in job searches. Getting a masters would help though, I'm not denying that. Just like in any other field you have to set yourself apart from the competition.

There are many opportunities out there in the sciences: Reseach and Development, QA/QC, regulatory, clinical, production, manufacturing, academia, government, marketing, sales, technical support, customer service, techs, there's prob a bunch I'm missing. R&D opportunities are not that great in Ontario, as a lot of R&D divisions are based in the US.

You have to attempt to grab any and all opportunities that come your way. This means applying to anything and everything related to your field, even if it's far away or not 100% related to what you are learning. We currently have a summer student that moved here to Ottawa from TO for the summer to gain valuable experience. Too many people give up too easily and don't give the needed effort in a job hunt. Networking also helps tremendously. You need to have a positive outlook and keep chugging along. There were many times where I wanted to pack it in, but you have to remind yourself that persistence and dedication pay off eventually.

I was fortunate enough to get great work experience during my 3rd year. However, during that summer I applied to everything I could find, and when I got my interview, I prepared endlessly and tried to showcase myself. That's what an interview is, you have to sell yourself effectively. This comes from interview practice and experience. If you get an interview, you're a candidate and they want you. It's up to you to seal the deal. I also have to mention that you want to make your resume and cover letter top notch. Let others see your resume, and be open to criticism.

I was an external hire in both my 3rd year job and current position in R&D. It goes to show what persistence does. When I graduated, it took me 5 months or so to get a job. I was doing data-entry that summer and at this time the job market was dying. However, I applied to listings on job sites, companies I knew, as well as company listings, one at a time (even if they didn't have a position). Turns out that the company I got a job with is one of the biggest biopharma companies in the world, and I had never even heard of it! I had 2-3 other interviews with Toronto companies where I was in the "leading candidate group", but I didn't get them. But hey this is where you learn why you didn't get the position and what you could do next time to enhance your chances of sealing the deal.

The bottom line is... do everything you can to get work experience during your undergrad because it will be vital. Get your foot in the door any chance you get. Don't listen to the naysayers that believe Science is a dead-end. It's not! There are many opportunities for advancement.

That's all I got to say for now!

[pocketbiscuit]

Which specialization in science will most likely land you a good job if you are not planning to go to medical school etc?

When I went to my program advisor for advice a year or two ago, he said that pharmaceutical companies often hire people to do research. I am in a biology-related program.

I think its better to look at what you are good at first, isn't it? Although I am a science student, I know I could never specialize in physics.