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spray foam insulation estimate good or bad?

I just got this quote to supply and install ‘BASF Walltite Eco®’ Sprayed-in-place polyurethane foam (PUF) 2lb density closed-cell. I wanted to post this to inform other users of the cost and to find out if it is line with other quotes other people may have received. If you break down the numbers it seems that they are charging roughly $1/sq.ft/inch. This is for a small sunroom where every wall is an exterior wall except for the one wall that attached the room to the house. so 3 walls, a ceiling and a floor. Only one wall has a window which is quite large.

Scope of work: AREA (net) R-Value (PUF)

1. Floor underside: 108sq.ft. @ R-24.0 (4.25” PUF) $ 500.00
2. Walls: 190sq.ft. @ R-20.0 (3.5” PUF) $ 741.00
3. Roof underside: 94sq.ft. @ R-30.5 (5.25” PUF) $ 499.00
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$ 1,740.00
HST $ 226.20
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Total $ 1,966.20
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clax66 wrote:
Oct 7th, 2010 8:48 am
I just got this quote to supply and install ‘BASF Walltite Eco®’ Sprayed-in-place polyurethane foam (PUF) 2lb density closed-cell. I wanted to post this to inform other users of the cost and to find out if it is line with other quotes other people may have received. If you break down the numbers it seems that they are charging roughly $1/sq.ft/inch. This is for a small sunroom where every wall is an exterior wall except for the one wall that attached the room to the house. so 3 walls, a ceiling and a floor. Only one wall has a window which is quite large.

Scope of work: AREA (net) R-Value (PUF)

1. Floor underside: 108sq.ft. @ R-24.0 (4.25” PUF) $ 500.00
2. Walls: 190sq.ft. @ R-20.0 (3.5” PUF) $ 741.00
3. Roof underside: 94sq.ft. @ R-30.5 (5.25” PUF) $ 499.00
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$ 1,740.00
HST $ 226.20
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Total $ 1,966.20

Thats around 300$ of batt insulation tops, plus a few hours to put in.
You will never ever recoup that cost.
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rocking23nf wrote:
Oct 7th, 2010 9:04 am
Thats around 300$ of batt insulation tops, plus a few hours to put in.
You will never ever recoup that cost.

You are right and maybe I will just scrap the whole spray foam idea. I know the money difference is huge but I wonder if the comfort level in the room will be that much less with standard insulation.
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clax66 wrote:
Oct 7th, 2010 9:10 am
You are right and maybe I will just scrap the whole spray foam idea. I know the money difference is huge but I wonder if the comfort level in the room will be that much less with standard insulation.

Houses have been built with standard batt insulation for a long time, and they work just fine.

Spray foam eliminated the need for a vapour barrier, and is a tigher seal. But until the cost comes down, its not worth it.
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spray foam is a much better insulator than batt insulation. Batt insulation looses a lot of its R value in the real world due to convection currents and still allows air leakage, which is often the biggest source of heat loss. The rooms are pretty much guranteed to be warmer with spray foam than batts, using less energy to do it, but it comes at a price. In heating bills alone, it will take a long time to pay for itself, but there is a good chance that it will add some value to your house in the future, if it is actually pointed out to the potential buyers.
for smaller quantities of spray foam, there is also the DIY option. Check out www.tigerfoam.ca, or check with local building suppliers. unfortunately Home Depot and the likes don't carry the stuff.
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yeah, spray foam costs about $1.10-1.50 in the GTA.
What Ive done is do 1" in some areas, and 2" in areas that get alot of wind.
then roxul the rest.
best of both worlds then.

also, it added some strength to my 100yr old brick work.
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balou911 wrote:
Oct 12th, 2010 11:48 pm
yeah, spray foam costs about $1.10-1.50 in the GTA.
What Ive done is do 1" in some areas, and 2" in areas that get alot of wind.
then roxul the rest.
best of both worlds then.

also, it added some strength to my 100yr old brick work.

This is a good compromise. The problem is that many of the spray foam companies have a minimum charge which is still higher than I wish to pay. This time of year the minimum charge seems to go up because of the high demand.
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min charge Ive found is about $800-1000.

Call around, there are i think 4 big spray foam companies in Toronto.
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Recently, I got some Spray Foaming done. It was for a unique situation where only 2 lbs Closed Cell Spray Foam could be used. For my unique situation of 10 ft across x 24 ft long by 3.5-4.0" thick, the guy charged me $900 + taxes. Since it was applied to my "dream situation" and only Spray Foam could be used, I hired the guy. And, glad I did. Especially since I'll be using this Spray Foam item for minimum 10-15 more years. For my unique situation, it was worth it. If for my future dream home (and I plan to live in it for 15+ years), I'd use Spray Foam again. re: 2 lbs @ Closed Cell. And with Spray Foam, the Contractor comes in, does the Spraying and he leaves. In/out and with NO hassle on my part. For my dream items (re: home, underside of travel trailer http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w251 ... 0_0696.jpg , inner fridge truck / trailer business, etc. etc) Spray Foam insulation is worth it. I'd use it again - especially if I plan to use that item for 10+ years...

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claxx66,

Could you please PM me the contact information for the company that quoted you $1/sq.ft./inch for the 2lb foam?

Thanks,

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spidermanphil wrote:
Oct 17th, 2010 3:01 pm
claxx66,

Could you please PM me the contact information for the company that quoted you $1/sq.ft./inch for the 2lb foam?

Thanks,

Spidermanphil


Every time I go to my messages my browser freezes. The name of the company is Great Northern Insulation Services Ltd. and the sales reps name is Peter Brenner....oh heck, here is all his info:

Peter L. Brenner
Sales Consultant (since 1982)
Cell. (416) 319-9559 Fax. (416) 755-8415
Great Northern Insulation Services Ltd.
Mississauga Branch
(905) 693-1990 - fax. (905) 694-1994
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another good company is Airseal Spray Foam Insulation Inc.

Kevin Kopas has been in the industry for 20 yrs and knows his stuff.
416.450.0918
905-497-2374 (ASFI)

He will match or beat any competitors price too. He uses 2lb closed cell (BASF Walltite ECO same as Mike Holmes guy) and Demilec Sealection 500 1/2 lb (open cell). My basement is sprayed and I can't believe the difference it has made!!!
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Tjalfe wrote:
Oct 7th, 2010 7:49 pm
for smaller quantities of spray foam, there is also the DIY option. Check out www.tigerfoam.ca, or check with local building suppliers. unfortunately Home Depot and the likes don't carry the stuff.

Bloody expensive. $3.80 per square foot if you want 3", which you need for it to be a vapor barrier.
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Jun 23rd, 2011 11:40 pm
Bloody expensive. $3.80 per square foot if you want 3", which you need for it to be a vapor barrier.

costs more but definitely worth it. After all my research,,,, I went type 2 polar foam soya 2lb which is environmentally friendly and better then the basf product pushed by other foam companies.
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JAC wrote:
Jun 23rd, 2011 11:40 pm
Bloody expensive. $3.80 per square foot if you want 3", which you need for it to be a vapor barrier.

and from what I've read, messy and hard to get warm enough for good coverage. I'm a DIY guy, but think this is a job for someone with experience and the right equipment.
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