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[Staples] $150/14.1 Laptop/Freeshipping/X5-Z8300/32 GB eMMC/2 GB RAM/Win 10 Home/Huge battery

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[Staples] $150/14.1 Laptop/Freeshipping/X5-Z8300/32 GB eMMC/2 GB RAM/Win 10 Home/Huge battery

https://www.staples.ca/en/product_2904418_1-CA_1_20001

https://www.staples.ca/en/product_2904418_1-CA_1_20001

Yes, this is only $50 cheaper than the previous deal I posted, but you have to keep in mind that it is very difficult to top that deal because CC was selling those at a loss. and $50 cheaper is not something to sneeze at at this price point, pretty sure staples isn't making money with this machine either.

At this price point, the advantages of this machine over the iSmart above is:

1, bigger battery + lower wattage CPU, when you have half the wattage but twice the battery size, your battery life quadruples.

2, it is not a random Chinese brand like iSmart, Thomson Neo is a European brand that has been around for over 120 years.

3, you deal with staples instead of CC, i.e., you can apply staples couples, use ebates, get free shipping, and return for a full refund at your nearest staples whenever you want.

4, bigger screen. could be the deal breaker if you are buying it for older people. (at native resolution, this has roughly 50% larger dot pitch [2285 vs. 1543], i.e., things appear to be 50% larger, than the iSmart. 1366*768@14.1 vs. 1920*1080@13.3)

5, resale value. It will be pretty easy to kijiji a laptop for $175 after the return period, exponentially easier than kijiji'ing a laptop for $250.

This CPU sucks, but this machine should be able to handle most day-to-day activities.

Disclaimer: this laptop is not meant for demanding tasks like photoshop or autocad. You are buying a machine for casual use, such as, streaming, light gaming (such as hearthstone), internet surfing (reddit, RFD, etc.), university and highschool (note taking & homework done in MS office). Without adding a new m.2 drive to it, in order to not be frustrated, you have to a, do a fresh installation of windows 10 (I talk more about this below) because it doesn't even have enough space to update its stock windows 10 to the newest version; and b, do almost everything they mention on this page and multiple pages associated with it, it is a bit of work, but I believe it's worth the hassle, as you can learn some valuable tricks along the way.

A couple things to note:

1, Windows 10 rocks. it is much smaller compared to Windows 7 in size and it finds all of the drivers for you, you just need to try your best to get used to it and learn where everything is. the first thing you should do is grab the windows 10 key that comes with this laptop with ProduKey.

2, best way to fully utilize windows 10 is to always do a fresh installation on your new laptop with the most up-to-date windows 10 installation media, this will save your laptop from having to update its stock windows 10 through microsoft update. unlike windows 7, where the ISO doesn't really change anymore. for windows 10, the installation media you create is always the latest version, in my case, version 1809.

3, don't install snappy driver under windows 10, there is no need and it might force you to do a fresh install of windows 10
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Is the RAM or SSD upgradeable in this machine ?
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This laptop would be unbearable to use. It's a 2015 Atom processor and it's even slower than the N3450.

Spend the extra money and get something newer.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2585

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2907

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=3204
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This video might help you make up your mind:
Last edited by techiedog on Jan 5th, 2019 7:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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For the price it's not bad of a laptop for Skype calls, light internet browsing, very light gaming, homework etc. Its battery should last quite long because of the low power CPU and 1366x768 screen.
It wouldn't be super fast, but as OP stated Windows 10 works amazing with slower hardware.
$180 (with tax, at least in QC) would get you a 2013 Dell Latitude 3330 with 2nd gen i3 and it wouldn't be any faster than this.

EDIT: a 2nd gen i3 is actually faster than this processor -- this is my bad, but still I think it's a better option than getting a second hand computer
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muratp wrote:
Jan 5th, 2019 7:01 pm
For the price it's not bad of a laptop for Skype calls, light internet browsing, very light gaming, homework etc. Its battery should last quite long because of the low power CPU and 1366x768 screen.
It wouldn't be super fast, but as OP stated Windows 10 works amazing with slower hardware.
$180 (with tax, at least in QC) would get you a 2013 Dell Latitude 3330 with 2nd gen i3 and it wouldn't be any faster than this.
Incorrect, even a Core 2 Duo or an old AMD Turion II Dual-Core will outperform the Intel Atom x5-Z8300.
Check this graph out.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2585

Sorry, but this laptop will be painfully slow and not worth the aggravation.
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techiedog wrote:
Jan 5th, 2019 7:11 pm
Incorrect, even a Core 2 Duo or an old AMD Turion II Dual-Core will outperform the Intel Atom x5-Z8300.
Check this graph out.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2585

Sorry, but this laptop will be painfully slow and not worth the aggravation.
I just checked cpubenchmark, and you are right, sorry about that. I thought a 2nd gen i3 would be as slow as this, but it's around 50% faster. And yeah even a Turion (N530) is faster. Didn't expect that.
Though I still think it's better to buy a new computer than a second hand one (or a tablet you can get for $150) It would still play 720p YouTube, run Word etc.
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I had an Asus transformer tablet with the same CPU RAM and storage specs. Impossible to use. Windows updates quickly hordes up all the eMMC, Firefox and Chrome freeze when having more than 1 or 2 tabs open.
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huntclub wrote:
Jan 5th, 2019 7:47 pm
I had an Asus transformer tablet with the same CPU RAM and storage specs. Impossible to use. Windows updates quickly hordes up all the eMMC, Firefox and Chrome freeze when having more than 1 or 2 tabs open.
Do a fresh installation of windows 10 using a newly created windows 10 installation media, or run disk cleanup.
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huntclub wrote:
Jan 5th, 2019 7:47 pm
I had an Asus transformer tablet with the same CPU RAM and storage specs. Impossible to use. Windows updates quickly hordes up all the eMMC, Firefox and Chrome freeze when having more than 1 or 2 tabs open.
You don't want to use chrome on cheap laptops.
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Pretty sure it cannot be upgraded to Windows 10 1809, because of insufficient storage.
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Glancealot wrote:
Jan 5th, 2019 9:39 pm
Do a fresh installation of windows 10 using a newly created windows 10 installation media, or run disk cleanup.
Yes I got rid of recovery partisan etc and in fact had to do fresh installation of Windows 10 several times because it had insufficient storage to do major upgrade by itself. HAD to run disk cleanup after every few minor Windows update. Eventually got fed up with it and sold it on Kijiji for $160.
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32gb storage memory kills it for me. Will never purchase a unit with only 32gb. Just a horrible experience when dealing with updating Windows never mind trying to install a few simple programs with the limited 32 gb memory. Definitely would not recommend getting any unit with less than 64gb memory, Just dealing with freeing up storage space to allow for Windows update is a nightmare in my opinion.
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lincoln wrote:
Jan 5th, 2019 6:46 pm
This laptop would be unbearable to use. It's a 2015 Atom processor and it's even slower than the N3450.

Spend the extra money and get something newer.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2585

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2907

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=3204
Please folks, this OP system is garbage. But the entire N-Series is also utter crap. All of these bottom-barrel systems will struggle to outperform Chromebooks given a Windows 10 boot.

God bless.
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Old Atoms with 2GB of RAM have huge performance problems - this included.

There was a time not too long ago that 2GB could get you by. That time has passed.

Don't do it.

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