Thread: Stay with Rogers or Go with Bell for internet?
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Sep 8th, 2007 12:36 PM
#1
Stay with Rogers or Go with Bell for internet?
Hi,
I'm gonna be moving soon and will be getting Bell ExpressVu installed when I move. This means that I won't be really be needing Rogers TV anymore. So if I were to keep Rogers Internet, I'd prolly have to pay the $10+ extra per month. I really don't have a problem paying this fee, however I can probably order Sympatico and get everything bundled (landline, satellite, dsl). That said, is Rogers internet better than sympatico? Right now, I enjoy pretty good speeds (I don't mind em at least), I get 600K downloads, BT works wonderfully. If I switch to Sympatico, will I expect the same kinda speeds, same uptime?
Also, I remember finding a site before where I could put in my postal code or address, and it'd find the nearest Bell CO (central office). Does anyone know what site this is? I forgot, and can't seem to get any results in Google.
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Sep 8th, 2007 12:43 PM
#2
Sympatico will be good if you are closer to the CO.
Only way to find out is when u call Bell ask the CSR how far you are from the CO and if u r closer then u r good to go. If you do a lot of downloading and u r far, then it would suck, but if you just do normal browsng email, songs/pictures downloading then just go with bell and put everything on 1 bill.
and the site you are talking about is probably dslreports.com or something like that.
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Sep 8th, 2007 06:52 PM
#3
If I were you I'd negotiate with Rogers to do all your services with them... just tell them you're going to cancel and they'll connect you with retentions and you can get a discount on your cable bill.
you seem to be getting VERY good BT d/l speeds with Rogers which seems rare so I wouldn't switch if I were you.
I just spent a couple days negotiating with Rogers AND Bell and this is what I settled with from rogers:
CABLE:
- Digital VIP package
- FREE PVR and receiver for 2yrs
- 3 month FREE movie network package
- $49.70/mo
INTERNET
- Rogers Express 7mbps
- $38.96/mo.
HOME PHONE- Home phone service with 2 calling features (call display and call waiting)
- $1/mo. for $0.05/min long distance (CAN and USA)
- $23.95/mo.
TOTAL = $112.61/mo. before taxes
$128.37/mo. after taxes
ALL of this was on a 1 YEAR commitment as well.
If I kept negotiating I probably could have gotten them to go lower on the home phone ($19.95/mo. I'm guessing)
The best Bell could offer me for the same deal was $139/mo. before taxes.
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Sep 8th, 2007 06:56 PM
#4
neither. can't techsavvy or acanac.
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Sep 8th, 2007 07:03 PM
#5

Originally Posted by
mbm
Only way to find out is when u call Bell ask the CSR how far you are from the CO and if u r closer then u r good to go.
just a word of advice, call up teksavvy and ask for an estimate of how fast your internet will go. Bell CSRs are now outsourced and don't know what they're talking about usually (based on personal experience). Just wanted to add that~
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Sep 8th, 2007 08:02 PM
#6
Download speeds with sympatico are slightly slower than rogers. You wont get the max 7mbps with sympatico...max is around 6.1meg. However, with sympatico you can get a better pricing by speaking to the cancellation department (you should be a customer for at least 5 months before calling in). Depending on which rep you speak to, you might get them to lower the price to as low as $24.95.
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Sep 8th, 2007 08:46 PM
#7
My speed with sympatico =)
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Sep 8th, 2007 09:59 PM
#8
Bell
Here is what I consider the best services. This is from my own personal experience.
Bell
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Express Vu is way better than Rogers Digital Cable, the only draw back is the dish only supports two televisions. You have to buy extra equipment for more TVs
Bell telephone is better than Rogers VoIP service. Voice quality is the same, but I just prefer Bell. How to argue with a company that has been doing it for over 100 years.
Rogers
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The GSM network is the only cell phone network. Best choice of phones and flexibility.
Rogers Internet. The best part of Rogers internet, you get the speeds advertised. If you are getting 7 Meg Service and 800k upload, that is what you get. ADSL is cheaper, but you will NEVER get the advertised speed.
That being said. Here is what I would do
Express Vu
Bell Phone Service
Rogers Cellular
Teksavvy ADSL
Spread it out, give everyone a little piece of the action. Teksavvy will probably not be as fast as Rogers Internet, but it will be quick enough and there are no caps, unlike Rogers and Sympatico.
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Sep 8th, 2007 10:04 PM
#9
Major Problem with Bell - They always over bill and try and rip you off.
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Sep 8th, 2007 10:07 PM
#10
Bell
Get basic Express Vu and basic phone service. Then get VoIP for all your outbound calls. But keep the Bell line for incoming and reliability. Especially if you need 911 service.
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Sep 8th, 2007 10:58 PM
#11
i dont have the rogers bundle....just the internet service...would they give me a retention?
anyone got a plan from another company that i can argue to match it with?
thanks
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Sep 9th, 2007 12:28 AM
#12

Originally Posted by
Spor 13
Hi,
I'm gonna be moving soon and will be getting Bell ExpressVu installed when I move. This means that I won't be really be needing Rogers TV anymore. So if I were to keep Rogers Internet, I'd prolly have to pay the $10+ extra per month. I really don't have a problem paying this fee, however I can probably order Sympatico and get everything bundled (landline, satellite, dsl). That said, is Rogers internet better than sympatico? Right now, I enjoy pretty good speeds (I don't mind em at least), I get 600K downloads, BT works wonderfully. If I switch to Sympatico, will I expect the same kinda speeds, same uptime?
Also, I remember finding a site before where I could put in my postal code or address, and it'd find the nearest Bell CO (central office). Does anyone know what site this is? I forgot, and can't seem to get any results in Google.
maybe you are looking for this link, type in your phone area code + first 3 digits of phone number
http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/telco
If you are close to the CO(still, as previous poster said, best to check with Teksavvy techs first, www.teksavvy.com), then sign with teksavvy, you would be paying less(~$31 with taxes) and you get great customer service, they also have a designated forum at dslreports.com too.
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Sep 9th, 2007 12:32 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
Noob1ee
My speed with sympatico =)

huh, that's weird, scarborough is almost 600 miles from frederick, MD, and it shows ~300.
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Sep 9th, 2007 12:37 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
Spor 13
Hi,
I'm gonna be moving soon and will be getting Bell ExpressVu installed when I move. This means that I won't be really be needing Rogers TV anymore. So if I were to keep Rogers Internet, I'd prolly have to pay the $10+ extra per month. I really don't have a problem paying this fee, however I can probably order Sympatico and get everything bundled (landline, satellite, dsl). That said, is Rogers internet better than sympatico? Right now, I enjoy pretty good speeds (I don't mind em at least), I get 600K downloads, BT works wonderfully. If I switch to Sympatico, will I expect the same kinda speeds, same uptime?
Also, I remember finding a site before where I could put in my postal code or address, and it'd find the nearest Bell CO (central office). Does anyone know what site this is? I forgot, and can't seem to get any results in Google.
If you stick with Rogers at your new location, I wouldn't count on bittorrent working as well as it has for you. I think there's some some location specific factor to who they throttle.
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Sep 9th, 2007 01:15 AM
#15
Traffic Shaping

Originally Posted by
JimG
If you stick with Rogers at your new location, I wouldn't count on bittorrent working as well as it has for you. I think there's some some location specific factor to who they throttle.
Yes, especially the Richmond Hill area.
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