Stop Canada Pension Plan Investments in War!

[hotweiss]

[url]http://coat.openconcept.ca/cpp/[/url]

Sign the petition.

Weapons are made to be used. Why is Canada supporting the death machine?

[d_jedi]

The CPP should only concern itself with getting the best return for OUR money. The companies that make these weapons do just that - they MAKE them.. they do not USE them.

[hotweiss]

[QUOTE=d_jedi]The CPP should only concern itself with getting the best return for OUR money. The companies that make these weapons do just that - they MAKE them.. they do not USE them.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the CPP should start investing in the cocaine trade? What do you think?

[fakishan]

if we invest in war, is it not only logical to expect more war?

[hotweiss]

[QUOTE=fakishan]if we invest in war, is it not only logical to expect more war?[/QUOTE]

What's worse is that these weapons can be used against us in the future.

[Evil Baby]

why not make some cash of a business that isn't going to go away and isn't illegal?

[Boss_Scorpius]

[QUOTE=d_jedi]The CPP should only concern itself with getting the best return for OUR money. The companies that make these weapons do just that - they MAKE them.. they do not USE them.[/QUOTE]

When did Canada become a country of the "end justifies the means" :(

[hotweiss]

[QUOTE=Evil Baby]why not make some cash of a business that isn't going to go away and isn't illegal?[/QUOTE]

Ethics!

Plus don't you see the insanity in industrializing the military? Don't you see that this could influence the foreign policy of nations? The Bush and the Bin Ladens have huge investments in the military industrial complex.

[fakishan]

[QUOTE=Boss_Scorpius]When did Canada become a country of the "end justifies the means" :([/QUOTE]

I would like to say Harper, but that wouldn't be true. It's beyond political parties, our leaders don't have a choice... to keep funding such powerfull groups is not wise at all. of course, many will. money is everything...or so they say.

[Bullseye]

Weapons are also used for national defence, and on peacekeeping missions, not quite a black and white issue.

Hitler, Milosevic, and innumerable African tyrants would not have give up their hold on power if we just asked them Really Nicely to please stop killing people.

[asim99]

[QUOTE=d_jedi]The CPP should only concern itself with getting the best return for OUR money. The companies that make these weapons do just that - they MAKE them.. they do not USE them.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:

[mattpiloto]

[QUOTE=fakishan]if we invest in war, is it not only logical to expect more war?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, but I have to say it: If you wish for peace, you must first prepare for war.

I'm not speaking for or against any current wars, but what happens if say, there is a new Hitler that comes along and decides he likes Canada. Meanwhile, however, the US, Canada, etc, have all rolled back their militaries to be a peacekeeping force only. Now what do you do? Ask the bad guys nicely to go away? If you think the world is all roses and butterflies now, you are sadly mistaken. There is one language that some people speak, and that is force. As long as that is true, a strong military is necessary.

[xKagex]

Thanks for the post. Perhaps the title should be changed to reflect that there's a petition to sign - I had no idea and didn't check this thread for quite a while.

[hotweiss]

[QUOTE=Bullseye]Weapons are also used for national defence, and on peacekeeping missions, not quite a black and white issue.

Hitler, Milosevic, and innumerable African tyrants would not have give up their hold on power if we just asked them Really Nicely to please stop killing people.[/QUOTE]

You wouldn't believe me that WW II was organized by Masons and so was the war in Yugoslavia, so I won't tell you that. And yes, the Masons produce all of the weapons. Yes, the U.S. still sells weapons to countless fascist non-democratic countries. And believe me when I say that the U.S.'s only interest in Africa is to sell enough weapons so that as many people will get killed as possible. And remember that they always play both sides!

[dark169]

STOP the CCP in investing in comanies that make money so it dires up and dies.

if you want ethics in investing where do you draw the line? Drug companies who profit from treatment not cures, seed/pesticide makers, big tabacoo, lumber, automakers, ect...

The CPP should be free to invest in business that make money legally.

the CPP not investing in weapons makers doesn't change what they do and wouldn't effect them in the least. Perahps we should invest the intire CPP in to say fuel cells and soy, one of which wont make money and the other is even more evil then weapons systems.