straight C+ student, what's in store for you?

[play_b3yond]

just a ba degree, nothing more

so what jobs can you get beside flipping burgers at burger king?

[chen0289]

straight C's in generals arts? maybe you were better off in college

[nalababe]

just a ba degree, nothing more

so what jobs can you get beside flipping burgers at burger king?

what ever you want.

Higher grades may help you with a foot in the door, but after that, it is performance in the job that keeps you there. I have probably read several hundred resumes (I don't do the first scan through, so I get only the narrowed down candidates) over the past few years, and not once did I care 1) where they went to university or 2) their grades in university.

Show me performance in the job. Achieve ME to EE on performance reviews, hit targets if you have them, Spot awards....all of these things will be far more important. After that, interview well and you are fine.

[play_b3yond]

straight C's in generals arts? maybe you were better off in college

heh, truth hurts

[brownman87]

BA wont go down well..
i dont know about the person not lookin at ur uni or ur marks, that is not the case for big companies.

ie. microsoft sets higher priority for waterloo grads.
lots of other things factor into the equation, also your experiences, and references ie. like a reference from your prof or biggies in politics could do well i suppose..


im not too sure, ill keep an eye out for other suggestions myself, i am kinda like in ur place, im in second year doing a business degree, but like many others, its highly competetive, every other joe is doing business.

[Bazooka Joe]

"University to get an education, college to get a job"

Otherwise, go for the "we'll take anything with a degree" jobs. RCMP, CSIS, military officer, etc.

[harry131]

There are a lot of options.... For example: I have two friends who were doing BCom... One of them was a C student and dropped out. The other was worse and got kicked out of the program.

What they did was they went to the "temp" employment companies like Randstad, Accountemps, Kelly, Groom & Associates. Did ~2 years of temporary small-time accounting and administrative jobs. They pay decent $13-16/hour.

The advantage with that was that they were exposed to multiple big companies for a stretch of 3-10months each. They worked hard, got a few good references.

The experience and references helped them get permanent positions in mid-sized companies. Now they have a permanent job with title's like accounting clerk/assistant. They make ~$35-38k...doing a 9-5 desk job, they started permanent work 1 year ago.
It might not be the best paying job, but I think considering that they screwed up their undergrad... they are doing pretty well. Although, for almost all such jobs one might never get over the $45-50k barrier... even with 15years experience.

p.s.: Those agencies have jobs in various fields and not just accounting. And Don't worry about experience, these "temp" placement agencies have many jobs that require no experience. Besides, when something comes up last minute they just pick a good candidate even if he/she does not have experience.... All you have to do is score good in their internal test of very-very basic math etc...

[nalababe]

BA wont go down well..
i dont know about the person not lookin at ur uni or ur marks, that is not the case for big companies.

ie. microsoft sets higher priority for waterloo grads.
lots of other things factor into the equation, also your experiences, and references ie. like a reference from your prof or biggies in politics could do well i suppose..


im not too sure, ill keep an eye out for other suggestions myself, i am kinda like in ur place, im in second year doing a business degree, but like many others, its highly competetive, every other joe is doing business.

Actually, I work for a top 30 Global Fortune 500 company. Again, we primarily do not hire new grads. We would rather hire someone with one or two years experience and will pay for that experience. At that point, we could care less what they did in University.....much like a grad school looks at the last two years, we want to see how you perform in the real world...not the safe protected world of university.

FWIW, I took a fifth year (to complete a second Major, this time in Mathematics and Statistics). Due to personal issues, I ended up with 0 - 15% in all of my final year courses. It did not hinder me one bit. I got a job in my field within a year (Biology so it is harder as there are less jobs), had my first 100k year before being 30 (though I earn less now as I have no desire to spend more than 37.5 hours a week a work) and have survived 3 mergers/aquisitions.

[play_b3yond]

thanks for the input guys, i'll remember to look at this thread in 2 years when i graduate (hopefully).

[UrbanPoet]

heh, truth hurts

its okay.... I only made it half way through university due to financial constraints.
I was able to get a full time job @ a bank. Im continuting to take courses p/t so i can eventually get my degree, but i'll most likely get it @ a crawl... But im pretty confident that with my skill, work ethic, and ability to talk my way into things i can get ahead.

[rfdrfd]

thanks for the input guys, i'll remember to look at this thread in 2 years when i graduate (hopefully).

Then you still have hope. Work your a$$ off the remaining years to achieve a higher grade. 2 yrs is a long time.

[teufel-man]

straight C's in generals arts? maybe you were better off in college

C+ is the average for the majority of courses at university, at least in my school.

Therefore he is just a average student.... not a poor student, just not a good student....

Are you saying that all student who get the class average or lower should not even bothered to go to university? If this is the case then according to you, university enrollment should drop by approx. 50%

doesnt make much sense to me

[IceBlueShoes]

Actually, I work for a top 30 Global Fortune 500 company. Again, we primarily do not hire new grads. We would rather hire someone with one or two years experience and will pay for that experience. At that point, we could care less what they did in University.....much like a grad school looks at the last two years, we want to see how you perform in the real world...not the safe protected world of university.

FWIW, I took a fifth year (to complete a second Major, this time in Mathematics and Statistics). Due to personal issues, I ended up with 0 - 15% in all of my final year courses. It did not hinder me one bit. I got a job in my field within a year (Biology so it is harder as there are less jobs), had my first 100k year before being 30 (though I earn less now as I have no desire to spend more than 37.5 hours a week a work) and have survived 3 mergers/aquisitions.

It's things like this that REALLY annoy me. (not your success that's cool)
Companies don't want grads, but grads have no experience. So what we're being told essentially is that unless you're in co-op, or start up your own business or have good hook-ups you're SOL.
I often pose this question to the people at job fairs. Why are you at a student job fair if you want people with experience? I have yet to get a good response.

OP: don't worry about your average. In the end, their's more to life than marks. I'm going into my 4th and final year of university and my overall average is a high 60. I'm doing an honours program so it's really coming down to the wire for me. Although in my case my majors requirements have to be at a B- min.
But if any employer asks me for grades, I'm moving on. Seems to me that it's a company that will treat me as # and not an individual and I don't want to work in a place such as that. My degree (physical degree) and/or letter of graduation should be enough. I also have a college diploma though so it does help.
Their are plenty of jobs out there.
Get involved in extra curricular activites, make contacts through work (if you can) and pick up good references.
One of my college profs said "It's not what you know, but who you know" which is true.
Good luck.

[skeletor]

I often pose this question to the people at job fairs. Why are you at a student job fair if you want people with experience? I have yet to get a good response.

+1

[mathewvc]

One of my college profs said "It's not what you know, but who you know" which is true.

quote ftw